By Observer
I was pleasantly surprised when I heard the Oromo Artists Association (OAA) was convening a conference to support reconciliation of the three OLF factions in MPLS, MN. The association was not in existence when the first schism took place in 2001 splitting the OLF in to Shanee Asmara (led by Dawud Ibsaa) and the Qaama Cehumsaa (led by Dhugaasaa Bakakkoo) groups. All members of the current board of directors of the OAA sided with the Shanee group during that split.
When the second schism took place in the summer of 2008 within the Shanee Asmara group and into the Shanee and the Jijjiirama groups, OAA was just a year old. Many of its members sided with Shanee while others sided with the Jijjiirama group as a result of which the association was paralyzed and rendered useless for about two years. It eventually dawned on OAA members that turmoil is bad for business and they decided to mend their differences. What is more, they even decided to support and encourage reconciliation efforts between the three OLF factions. Or was that a gimmick?
First, Let us get some facts straight.
There are two efforts currently underway to reconcile the OLF factions.
One was initiated by a group of individuals (“maanguddoo”) around the beginning of 2009. The list of these individuals includes Lenco Lata, Dima Nago, Xaha Abdi, Jeylu Danboba, Ahmed Hussen, Fiqaadu Wakjira, Kuleni Gudina, etc … all Shanee or Jijjirama members. Only two OLF factions (the Dawud Ibsa and the Kamal galchu groups) are involved in the “maanguddoo” reconciliation effort. Having examined the list of “maanguddoo”, the QC group felt the “maanguddoo” cannot be independent and objective mediators and therefore refused to take part. To the QC group these “manguddoo” are not only members of rival groups passing themselves as neutral and objective mediators (a Shanee gimmick), but many of them are part of the problem. Latest information about this effort is that the leaders of the two factions have agreed and signed an agreement to share power while they prepare to convene Kora Sabaa (KS) and elect a new set of leaders. This agreement is opposed vehemently by Shanee grassroots members and has threatened another split much less implement it.
Another reconciliation effort is one initiated by A call to strengthen the Oromo Struggle for Liberation by the QC group. The Shanee and Jijjiirama groups answered the call. All three factions of the OLF are party to this one in a direct (no mediator “maanguddoo” involved) and bi-lateral fashion. In other words, reconciliation talks take place between two factions at a time – no three way talks have taken place yet. It was the result of this initiative which was reported at the conference on May 29, 2010 by the representative of the QC group.
Now, let us try to answer whether the conference and its associated events thus far are meant to truly support Oromo Reconciliation, Unity and Mobilization or another Shanee Gimmick. I would not have asked this question had the OAA not presented itself as a neutral civic association whose only interest is Oromo Reconciliation, Unity and Mobilization.
Our first stop is the conference itself. In his opening speech, the chairman of OAA presented the objective of the conference as supporting “Oromo Reconciliation, Unity and Mobilization initiated by ‘maanguddoo.” He said nothing about the reconciliation effort initiated by the QC group. He also appealed to “manguddoo” to disclose the name of any group refusing to heed their verdict for condemnation by Oromo public. The chairman also reminded everyone that he was not speaking as a member of his political group (Jijjiirama) but on-behalf of OAA.
If OAA is as neutral in this conflict, and reconciliation of all OLF factions is at the heart of its effort, as it claims, why does it support one to which only two factions are parties through Shanee “maanguddoo” and completely ignore one initiated by the QC group to which all three factions are parties and which is close to bearing fruit? Why does OAA call on “maanguddoo” who are all Shanee or Jijjiirama members to disclose the name of anyone group refusing to heed their verdict when it fully knows that the QC group is not party to that effort?
Where is the neutrality OAA is claiming? Was the chairman speaking for himself and not for OAA? If that is the case, then it is up to OAA to disown his statements without delay. If it fails to do so, there is no mistaking that it has shown partisanship and the whole exercise is nothing but a Shanee gimmick just like the “maanguddoo” affair.
The second event we will examine is the OAA chairman’s (Jijjirama member) and PR’s (Shanee member) interview with the VOA Afaan Oromoo program on June 4th, 2020.
In this interview, again, both gentlemen deliberately misinformed the public.
First, the OAA officers spoke of a reconciliation effort by “manguuddoo” which they misrepresented as involving all three factions. They both know full well that the QC group is not party to that effort. Why misinform the public?
Second, they again deliberately hid the existence of two different reconciliation efforts underway. Just as at the conference, OAA officers completely ignored and failed to mention the effort initiated by the QC group and in which all three factions are involved. Why?
For anyone who is familiar with the OLF saga, it is abundantly clear that the three factions don’t agree on the cause(s) of their problems much less on the solution. Members of the OAA can have their own take on these issues but I don’t believe OAA has a stand on these issues as a civic association. Neither do I think it should.
But listen to the OAA chairman and PR diagnose the cause of OLF splits in this interview. The former diagnosed it as “personal ego” of the leaders. The PR officer at least listed a couple of causes cited by different groups but ended up at the same diagnoses. Recall I said the three factions don’t agree on the cause(s) of their problems much less on the solution? “Personal ego” is one of Shanee Asmara’s (currently split into Shanee & Jijjiirama) diagnosis.
Where the two gentlemen there to speak on their groups behalf or on behalf of OAA? If OAA has no stand on these issues as I assumed, why pass their own views as that of the association’s? This is very short sighted and counterproductive.
Again, OAA must disown their statements if it wants to be taken seriously and continue to work for Oromo Reconciliation, Unity and Mobilization. Otherwise, it will become another Shanee gimmick just like the “Maanguddoo” gimmick.
Have your say.
When the second schism took place in the summer of 2008 within the Shanee Asmara group and into the Shanee and the Jijjiirama groups, OAA was just a year old. Many of its members sided with Shanee while others sided with the Jijjiirama group as a result of which the association was paralyzed and rendered useless for about two years. It eventually dawned on OAA members that turmoil is bad for business and they decided to mend their differences. What is more, they even decided to support and encourage reconciliation efforts between the three OLF factions. Or was that a gimmick?
First, Let us get some facts straight.
There are two efforts currently underway to reconcile the OLF factions.
One was initiated by a group of individuals (“maanguddoo”) around the beginning of 2009. The list of these individuals includes Lenco Lata, Dima Nago, Xaha Abdi, Jeylu Danboba, Ahmed Hussen, Fiqaadu Wakjira, Kuleni Gudina, etc … all Shanee or Jijjirama members. Only two OLF factions (the Dawud Ibsa and the Kamal galchu groups) are involved in the “maanguddoo” reconciliation effort. Having examined the list of “maanguddoo”, the QC group felt the “maanguddoo” cannot be independent and objective mediators and therefore refused to take part. To the QC group these “manguddoo” are not only members of rival groups passing themselves as neutral and objective mediators (a Shanee gimmick), but many of them are part of the problem. Latest information about this effort is that the leaders of the two factions have agreed and signed an agreement to share power while they prepare to convene Kora Sabaa (KS) and elect a new set of leaders. This agreement is opposed vehemently by Shanee grassroots members and has threatened another split much less implement it.
Another reconciliation effort is one initiated by A call to strengthen the Oromo Struggle for Liberation by the QC group. The Shanee and Jijjiirama groups answered the call. All three factions of the OLF are party to this one in a direct (no mediator “maanguddoo” involved) and bi-lateral fashion. In other words, reconciliation talks take place between two factions at a time – no three way talks have taken place yet. It was the result of this initiative which was reported at the conference on May 29, 2010 by the representative of the QC group.
Now, let us try to answer whether the conference and its associated events thus far are meant to truly support Oromo Reconciliation, Unity and Mobilization or another Shanee Gimmick. I would not have asked this question had the OAA not presented itself as a neutral civic association whose only interest is Oromo Reconciliation, Unity and Mobilization.
Our first stop is the conference itself. In his opening speech, the chairman of OAA presented the objective of the conference as supporting “Oromo Reconciliation, Unity and Mobilization initiated by ‘maanguddoo.” He said nothing about the reconciliation effort initiated by the QC group. He also appealed to “manguddoo” to disclose the name of any group refusing to heed their verdict for condemnation by Oromo public. The chairman also reminded everyone that he was not speaking as a member of his political group (Jijjiirama) but on-behalf of OAA.
If OAA is as neutral in this conflict, and reconciliation of all OLF factions is at the heart of its effort, as it claims, why does it support one to which only two factions are parties through Shanee “maanguddoo” and completely ignore one initiated by the QC group to which all three factions are parties and which is close to bearing fruit? Why does OAA call on “maanguddoo” who are all Shanee or Jijjiirama members to disclose the name of anyone group refusing to heed their verdict when it fully knows that the QC group is not party to that effort?
Where is the neutrality OAA is claiming? Was the chairman speaking for himself and not for OAA? If that is the case, then it is up to OAA to disown his statements without delay. If it fails to do so, there is no mistaking that it has shown partisanship and the whole exercise is nothing but a Shanee gimmick just like the “maanguddoo” affair.
The second event we will examine is the OAA chairman’s (Jijjirama member) and PR’s (Shanee member) interview with the VOA Afaan Oromoo program on June 4th, 2020.
In this interview, again, both gentlemen deliberately misinformed the public.
First, the OAA officers spoke of a reconciliation effort by “manguuddoo” which they misrepresented as involving all three factions. They both know full well that the QC group is not party to that effort. Why misinform the public?
Second, they again deliberately hid the existence of two different reconciliation efforts underway. Just as at the conference, OAA officers completely ignored and failed to mention the effort initiated by the QC group and in which all three factions are involved. Why?
For anyone who is familiar with the OLF saga, it is abundantly clear that the three factions don’t agree on the cause(s) of their problems much less on the solution. Members of the OAA can have their own take on these issues but I don’t believe OAA has a stand on these issues as a civic association. Neither do I think it should.
But listen to the OAA chairman and PR diagnose the cause of OLF splits in this interview. The former diagnosed it as “personal ego” of the leaders. The PR officer at least listed a couple of causes cited by different groups but ended up at the same diagnoses. Recall I said the three factions don’t agree on the cause(s) of their problems much less on the solution? “Personal ego” is one of Shanee Asmara’s (currently split into Shanee & Jijjiirama) diagnosis.
Where the two gentlemen there to speak on their groups behalf or on behalf of OAA? If OAA has no stand on these issues as I assumed, why pass their own views as that of the association’s? This is very short sighted and counterproductive.
Again, OAA must disown their statements if it wants to be taken seriously and continue to work for Oromo Reconciliation, Unity and Mobilization. Otherwise, it will become another Shanee gimmick just like the “Maanguddoo” gimmick.
Have your say.
126 comments:
Vary good observation, Observer. Please hold their feet 6to the fire.
Dear Observer,
Good question. The answer is yes, it is yet another Shanee gimmick, desperate one for that matter. The Shanee are irrecoverably malicious group that no good can be expected from.
The speaker at the conference on behalf of QC ABO has abundantly made it clear that the issue of the conflict. The split is between Shagaa and Qaacaa. There is no split between Jijjirama and Shanee on issue of politics. They are the same.
The good news is that the cat is out of the bag. The so called OAA ran to the VOA for damage limitation. The want to cloud the issue clarified at the meeting. Too late!
How are these guys calling themselves OAA at any rate? Is art only singing? You cannot call yourself Oromo Artists Association by just singing Oromo songs. Art is much wider than that. What about drawing artists, writers, actors? Singers cannot call themselves artists. This name belongs to artists such as Picasso, Mathis, Van Gov, Lammaa Guyyaa etc.
I am sick and tired of these pretenders who abuse names by prefixing it the word Oromo. Take Oromo National Accadamy (ONA). What a laugh? A mailing list for a purpose of ‘jette jette’ calls itself ONA. Lack of modesty in today's Oromo society never fails to amaze me.
Hell with Shanee.
Let the shanee and jijjirama group and their members soothe their groups and leaders problem untill they die a natural death. I think by doing by doing so, they pushing their groop to their respective grave.
We really should not talk about shanee and jijjirama any more. They are quickly becoming irrelevant by their own ommission and commission. These people do not have any reason of what so ever but driven by greed and selfaggradizment. They lack Oromo gut and reputation. These people have lost their soul and never be trusted. If they lie to Oromo, their children, fathers, mothers, brothers and sisters, what do you expect from shanee, jijjiiramaa and their associates. Expecting something from these groups is like expecting chicken from snakes eggs.
Even if they try to hide the reality and sabotage the conference to their adbantage, people have heard the fact from the representative of QC-ABO and they seem to have understood what he said. The applause he got was a guage for this. We the public did not listen to what the OAA people said because they have been party to the problem in OLF.
Oh, dear!
The people who want to present the cause of the conflict within the OLF leading to split as personal and ego problem have Habasha mind set. Did you know that Habasha people also say the same.
The Habasha say that there is no real political difference between the Oromo and the Habasha and that the whole concept of the existence of the Oromo nation is a creation of some Oromo elite with problem of ego.
Now, the Shanee who say that the split within the OLF is personal or regional are not telling us anything new that we have not heard from their Habasha masters.
It is time that the OAA or Shanee or Jijjirama for that matter stop insulting our intelligence.
Do these poor Shanee people try to convience us that it is personal when they dissolved OLA and surrendered to Wayane. Who was Luchoo Bukura? He was big Shanee. He was their head of foreign relations in Washington DC. Now he is in bed with Meles.
My message to Shanee is get real.
Long live OLF!
Let’s forget the ruling regime of the Hegemonist Looting Front (HLF), but let me try to clarify and describe the three camps of the opposition who must have a covert or overt cooperation and coordination of their struggle against the fascist regime:
- the ultra left Unionist Liberation Forces (ULFs), who do have European Union as their role model and want to forge Union of Independent Nations in the region called Ethiopia/the Horn, the union which is similar to EU.
- the middle positioned African Killil-Federalists (AKFs), who want to build African federation of autonomous nations, all nations having their autonomy at the levels of province (nation -state), zone, district and county based on the capacity and size of each nations. Weyanes Killil-federation is the fake form of such TRUE African Federation.
- the ultra right Unitarist Patriotic Forces (UPFs), who do have United States of America as their role model and want to foster region-state called Ethiopia with ONE national language (of cource Amharinya) similar to English in USA, disregarding the national interest of other nations and nationalities in the empire to use and develop their own language in their own autonomous national areas.
ULFs in the empire are reperesented by Oromianists with their project: nation-state called Oromia, but seem to be anti-Ethiopia (reject the regional project Ethiopia). UPFs are mainly Ethiopianist Amharas with their project: region-state Ethiopia, but are anti-Oromia (reject the national project Oromia). At the middle position, the AKF do try to accomodate both projects and to promote both Oromian national autonomy/independence and Ethiopian regional union/integration.
Nowadays some political organizations like OLF, ONLF, G-7, EPRP, EPRP-D and UEDF-Diaspora are calling for alliance (TIBIBIR) against the fascist regime. What can be the common ground for the ultra left ULFs like ULFO and ONLF with the ultra right UPFs like EPRP and UEDF? I think the only compromise position is that of AKFs, i.e a TRUE Killil Federation of the region-state Ethiopia. AFD and MEDREK already took this position, even though they were not successful as expected. G-7’s position is ambigious, between that ot AKFs and UPFs. Let the time clear such cloudy positions. I hope in due time all the ULFs, the AKFs and the UPFs will agree on such common compromise position to forge a very strong opposition alliance against the fascist regime of the HLF.
Let’s forget the ruling regime of the Hegemonist Looting Front (HLF), but let me try to clarify and describe the three camps of the opposition who must have a covert or overt cooperation and coordination of their struggle against the fascist regime:
- the ultra left Unionist Liberation Forces (ULFs), who do have European Union as their role model and want to forge Union of Independent Nations in the region called Ethiopia/the Horn, the union which is similar to EU.
- the middle positioned African Killil-Federalists (AKFs), who want to build African federation of autonomous nations, all nations having their autonomy at the levels of province (nation -state), zone, district and county based on the capacity and size of each nations. Weyanes Killil-federation is the fake form of such TRUE African Federation.
- the ultra right Unitarist Patriotic Forces (UPFs), who do have United States of America as their role model and want to foster region-state called Ethiopia with ONE national language (of cource Amharinya) similar to English in USA, disregarding the national interest of other nations and nationalities in the empire to use and develop their own language in their own autonomous national areas.
ULFs in the empire are reperesented by Oromianists with their project: nation-state called Oromia, but seem to be anti-Ethiopia (reject the regional project Ethiopia). UPFs are mainly Ethiopianist Amharas with their project: region-state Ethiopia, but are anti-Oromia (reject the national project Oromia). At the middle position, the AKF do try to accomodate both projects and to promote both Oromian national autonomy/independence and Ethiopian regional union/integration.
Nowadays some political organizations like OLF, ONLF, G-7, EPRP, EPRP-D and UEDF-Diaspora are calling for alliance (TIBIBIR) against the fascist regime. What can be the common ground for the ultra left ULFs like ULFO and ONLF with the ultra right UPFs like EPRP and UEDF? I think the only compromise position is that of AKFs, i.e a TRUE Killil Federation of the region-state Ethiopia. AFD and MEDREK already took this position, even though they were not successful as expected. G-7’s position is ambigious, between that ot AKFs and UPFs. Let the time clear such cloudy positions. I hope in due time all the ULFs, the AKFs and the UPFs will agree on such common compromise position to forge a very strong opposition alliance against the fascist regime of the HLF.
Hi guys/gals,
make no confusion! Kaayyoo-Oromo with its possible three outcomes, which can be achieved one after another, is crytal clear:
- Kayyoo-tooftaa (tactical goal) = Oromian Autonomy or make the current Oromia under Weyane to be truely autonomous! OFC's goal is this, even if its peaceful method of struggle is not efficient. OLF should help them with armed struggle to achieve this same goal. That is what OLF-SG is doing, even though accused as leaving the Kaayyoo-ganama.
- Kaayyoo-ijoo (CORE goal) = Oromian Independence or establishing Independent Republic of Oromia (includes the OLF map, not only the OPDO map). This is the job of all the three factions of OLF and ULFO. That is why the merger of these forces is mandatory for them to be efficient.
- Kaayyoo-tarsimoo (strategical goal) = Oromian Union or the union of all independent nations in the Horn, which includes almost all of the great Oromia's progeny (Oromia from Meroe to Mombaasa) like Beja-land, Agew-tigirai, Agew-amhara, Afar-irob, Sidama et al, republic of Oromia proper and Somalia. I think OFD (Oromo in AFD) is envisioning to achieve this.
That is why I think Shanee Gumii is the smart faction of OLF. It is operating at all the three levels: supporting OFC, fostering re-unification of OLF and promoting the vision of OFD! Good job Shanee Gumii which is led by obbo Daud Ibsaa!!
Hi guys/gals,
make no confusion! Kaayyoo-Oromo with its possible three outcomes, which can be achieved one after another, is crytal clear:
- Kayyoo-tooftaa (tactical goal) = Oromian Autonomy or make the current Oromia under Weyane to be truely autonomous! OFC's goal is this, even if its peaceful method of struggle is not efficient. OLF should help them with armed struggle to achieve this same goal. That is what OLF-SG is doing, even though accused as leaving the Kaayyoo-ganama.
- Kaayyoo-ijoo (CORE goal) = Oromian Independence or establishing Independent Republic of Oromia (includes the OLF map, not only the OPDO map). This is the job of all the three factions of OLF and ULFO. That is why the merger of these forces is mandatory for them to be efficient.
- Kaayyoo-tarsimoo (strategical goal) = Oromian Union or the union of all independent nations in the Horn, which includes almost all of the great Oromia's progeny (Oromia from Meroe to Mombaasa) like Beja-land, Agew-tigirai, Agew-amhara, Afar-irob, Sidama et al, republic of Oromia proper and Somalia. I think OFD (Oromo in AFD) is envisioning to achieve this.
That is why I think Shanee Gumii is the smart faction of OLF. It is operating at all the three levels: supporting OFC, fostering re-unification of OLF and promoting the vision of OFD! Good job Shanee Gumii which is led by obbo Daud Ibsaa!!
Shanee Gumii is a lost cause. Just in case you have not worked it out the Shanee are in a prison called Eritrea. They cannot evel liberate themselves, forget about Oromia. The Shanee Gumii is dead in the water. And that can only be a good thing.
Oromia shall be free!
Bye the way who involved Sirbituu in politics? The Sirbituu should stick to music. They should not medel in politics. They should not talk by 'fakaata'. They are pretty useless in Sirba.
Keep to waht you know.
Ulaagan jarsumma maali?
Akka aada Oromo itti jarsii, warra waldhaban giddu dubbi jiru keessaa
kan harka inqabne kan faranjiin netural body jettu sana.
Diima Nago Neutal dha?
Xaha Abdi woo garam jira? shane?
Fiqaadu Wakjira fii Kuleni Gudina shane miti?
Jeylu Danboba fii Ahmed Hussen jijirama miti?
Lenco Lata woo kanumtti dubbi kana laaqu isa miti?
Jarrii kun gartu shane + jijirama itti
achuma dhaabtanii mare keessatti qooda fudhacu
dha malee ulaaga jarsa Oromo waan inguunnef
Akka jaarsa itti of dhieessu inqabani.
Jarsoolii in Oromo culture should be neutal.
When I saw the list of so called
Jarsas who are the leaders of the
factions (shane and jijirama) I am surprised. How can they be jarsas when they are part of the problem and the cuase, the leaders of the problem and the cause.
They should get involved in the discussion through their prespective parties (shane and jijirama.
In my opinion, this is a political discussion which doesn't require jarsumma if it is needed get a neutral body.
Ya QaaCaa, isin ammalle Afaan isnitti qaawwinaan haasoftu moo, amaluma isinitti taanaan dhamaatu?
QaaCaa is now a days composed Rifrafs and Retirees who still believe that Haile Sellasie is alive.
Haile Silaseen amma ille mata keessa siin baane Yaa obbolesso.
Habasha kana du'a isalle ni sodattu jechudha?
Insoodatiin habshiri. Habashanis bitamtun ishees Umna Oromo jala dhaabachu indandeessu
tokkummadhan itti bobanaan.
Dear readers!
I am shocked at the list of so-called elders,or manguddoota.My question is: Who aksed them to be manguddoota? What are the creterion to be a manguddoo? Are they honest to the issues? Are they unbiased?
As every Oromo knows, these individuals from the very beginning the source of every Oromo problem. They are the source of ills. They are evils closed in human flesh. They are the judas who are embeded within Oromo nationals. They are enemy agents.
Oromoon yoo makmaaku "Qoreen ofumaa iyyisiise, Ofumaa isaatii iyya baahe" jedhu. Jarri tun ofuma isaaniitii saba Oromoo, qabsoo isaa fi ABO irratti hammeenna, yakka,fi shira hojjatee amma ammoo as deebitee afaan mummuxataa fi mi'eeffatee akka nama qulqulluu nuy manguddoota, rakkinna hiikna jettee of dhiyeessite. Kun doofummaa dha. Sabni irratti baree jira.
Kan lammaffaa murna Artistoota ofiin jedhu ilaala. Oromo Artistoota muni ofiin jedhu kun isaanuu Shanee Gumii ti. The OLF split in August 2001 on political diffirence, on political ground. In 2007, Shanee split into two factions: Shanee Dawud and Jijjiirama of Kamal. The split was not on political differnce but on personal, on ego, and on regional basis. The so-called OAA must be ashamed of itself for not telling the truth. In fact, for ten years these individuals were dancing day and night for Shanee Gumii. They were the supporters of AFD. I really believe OAA is Oromo Ethiopianist hiding behind the Oromo name.
I like the obeservation of Mr. Observer. He told the truth as it is.
Akka natti fakkaatutti warri QC boolla isaan keessatti awwaalamanii jiran keessaa kan baasee ifatti baasaa jiru maangudummaa isaan amma balfachaa jiranii dha. Qaamni waggaa 10 guutuu of beeksisuullee hin dandeeyye, waa'ee qabsoo fi egeree oromoo irraa maal dubbachuu danda'a? kanaafuu arranba dheerACHUUN KUN QABSA'AA NAMA HIN TAASISU.
Dear Observer,
I should tell you that you and your QC are unfit by any standard for Qabsoo Bilisummaa Oromoo. You are by far behind the time. Try to keep up with the latest sate of affairs on our planet Earth. May I ask you a question: What has really QC contributed to Qabsoo since it declared split from OLF? Are you really Oromoo? I doubt! And what do you think is the benefit from your current post in line with its contribution to the problem in QBO? Down with such backward thinking!
The person who wrote the opinion before mine - why do you think AC-ABO is unfit? Is that because they don't accept the Shanee "globalization and we can not liberate Oromia" theory? Is that beacuse they refused to accept the Ethiopianization of the OLF? You ask what they contributed since the split. Should you not appreciate them for not taking the Oromo struggle two steps back like Shanee? Come-on be fair.
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Dear Sir/ Madam,
QC is unfit because it has not been able to see politics flexibly! Many things are changing every micro second in the world, but QC is not! We tried QC's way of thinking for the last 40 years, but gained nothing. Let's now try the way others like South Sudan, Eritrea and others have succeeded. Was Meles fool to rename TPLF EPRDF? Circumstances dictate your way of viewing things, politics is not exception. Above all, defamation is the worst thing in politics. Let's accept what the majority accept! If you defy the will of the majority then what are fighting for? If QC doesn't accept Leencoo, Diimaa,.......; so should we talk to Meles or Hailu Shawul to mediate as Manguddoo?
Dear QC's:
I was hoping you are finally coming to your senses. From all these comments above, I learned that you are still there, the same place ten or so years ago. Sad. Too sad.
QC was pretty much dead in recent years. No activity, no meeting, no contribution whatsoever. Now, they thought they are coming to life and started bragging about their only nonesense card, which is "kaayyoo tu cabee". How can one sing the same boring song for more than 10 yrs?
Anyway, all Oromo nationalists are coming together with or without QC. If you are not willing to be part of this, you will die a natural death.
Sincerely.
Not ten years. Till liberation of Oromia and after liberation of Oromia we will sing about kaayyoo. If somebody blames QC-ABO for singing about kaayyoo for the last ten years, he or she is dead wrong. We have been singing for more than ten years and we will continue singing about it. This is our fundamental role upon which everthing you think of depends.Live alone fighting for it, shanee have failed to sing about kaayyoo.Secondly QC-ABO is not a coward who does not tell people what it wants like Shanee.
I am sorry! still you are targeting Shanee. That is of no use! No finger pointing, please! No one benefits from that! It is good that you keep on singing, but I tell you if you fail to give recognition to the ideas of the majority today, you will end up being dictator after liberation. Who are you after all? Does your Oromoness excel that of the majority or you are simply creating chaos? Mee hoo dandeesse atis carraaqi, Shaneenis haa carraaqu, wal-baleeffachuu dhiisaa!
The arguement here is: can the Empire really be democtratized? Can the empire be democratized? Of course, the answer is big NO! If it really happens, democracy can lead to the self-determination of nations. But trying to democratize an Empire like Ethiopian empire is a pipe dream. Just imagine Habesha elites including Weyane honestly allow a purely democratic fair and free election. They surely know Oromo nationalists will be in control of power in Finfinne palace. They just want to see this on their dead body, never as long as they live. That is why Oromo nationalists do propose that first let’s destroy the system of domination (clolonization) per bullet and then democratize nation-states like Ogadenia, Tigrai, Amharia and Oromia. These democratized nation-states can forge a UNION of independent Nations in the form of ‘United Horn of Africa’ for common benefit. Otherwise trying to democratize an imperial unitary Ethiopia is already doomed to fail! One can write whatever philosophy or theory he/she wants, but fact on the ground is that no Habesha elite wants to see Oromo nationalists taking over power in Finfinne palace per ballot! But surely they will be compelled to give up their domination only per bullet! That is why the solution for Oromo nation is only the very strong OLF/OLA! Oromo people need to invest here, not on a futile attempt of democratizing the dying empire.
The arguement here is: can the Empire really be democtratized? Can the empire be democratized? Of course, the answer is big NO! If it really happens, democracy can lead to the self-determination of nations. But trying to democratize an Empire like Ethiopian empire is a pipe dream. Just imagine Habesha elites including Weyane honestly allow a purely democratic fair and free election. They surely know Oromo nationalists will be in control of power in Finfinne palace. They just want to see this on their dead body, never as long as they live. That is why Oromo nationalists do propose that first let’s destroy the system of domination (clolonization) per bullet and then democratize nation-states like Ogadenia, Tigrai, Amharia and Oromia. These democratized nation-states can forge a UNION of independent Nations in the form of ‘United Horn of Africa’ for common benefit. Otherwise trying to democratize an imperial unitary Ethiopia is already doomed to fail! One can write whatever philosophy or theory he/she wants, but fact on the ground is that no Habesha elite wants to see Oromo nationalists taking over power in Finfinne palace per ballot! But surely they will be compelled to give up their domination only per bullet! That is why the solution for Oromo nation is only the very strong OLF/OLA! Oromo people need to invest here, not on a futile attempt of democratizing the dying empire.
Walfidaa’s summary is nice to show the common denominator to forge the alliance! But he clamped AFD and MEDREK to the same position! Actually MEDREK is the temporary mid-term solution (Killil-federation = Union of Autonomous Nations) on the way to the AFD’s lasing end-term soulution (Union of Independent Nations). So to put in linear: Reactionary Unitarists like AEUP are obsolete——-Fascist Hegemonist TPLF is temporary evil———-Democratic Killil-Federalists like MEDREK are good for tactical solution (to achieve tactical Kaayyoo = national autonomy)—————National liberators like ULFO are better to achieve the CORE-KAAYYOO = national independence————Prpgressive Unionists like AFD are the best to come to strategical lasting solution (strategical Kaayyoo = Union of Independent Nations)!
Shanee people must wake up from their last ten years dream. Yes you used to have big meeting and robbed significant amount of money. Where did that meeting attended by big numbers and money take you? What posetive impact did it have on our struggle?That big meeting and that big fundraising only strengthenned the distructive mission of Shanee. That big meeting of yours and big money only helped shanee to disarm WBO and disunite oromoo people and OLF. That big meeting of yours and big money you used to collect from innocent oromo public did only help you fatten the shanee leaders and corrupt the thinking and the determination of some oromo. Did that big meeting of yours and big money you raised in any way contributed to the slogan you coined:"gadaan gadaa bilisummaa ti" to cone oromoo people. Your big meeting and big money had a reverse impact on your slogan: "gadaan gadaa diigamsaa, harka keniinsaa,kkf" .Shanee should not forget that the unity Oromo people want is not the unity of increasing numbers for collecting money but the unity of purpose based on:one kaayyoo(I'm still singing), one organization, one costitution, one political programme,and one leader."Almost always, the creative and dedicated minority has made the world better" Marthin Luther King. The unity we should look for is not to increase the amount of money to be looted but it is the unity of creativity and dedication that can make the world of Oromo better.Few people with common objective is much better than, million with out common purpose.
It is interesting to note the difference between supporters of QC-ABO's idea and those that Oppose it. The analysis they provide as argument for supporting are logical and informative. However, those opposing QC-ABO provide no reasoning or analysis in support of their position - just insults. This tells a whole lot about these two groups and their ideas. For a neutral Oromo like myself who is interested in Oromo politics and trying to untangle these issues it quickly becomes clear the the opposition of QC_ABO sound bitter people who are unable to control their temper and talk reason. They should learn from QC-ABO. This is a group strong in its belief come hail or high water. They do not flip-flop and make no bones about their defence of the original objective of the OLF - Independent state of Oromia. They deserve my respect just for this. The other side should learn from them.
Thanks you.
Guys, it seems we are not hearing one another! I don't know if we are even reading each other's comments. What's wrong with some of the comment posters? Mee wal-komachuu dhiifnee fala barbaaduu irratti haa xiyyeeffannu! How long do we need to continue condemning one another?? Please try to be solution-seekers!!! Filannoo isa dhumaa uummata bal'aa Oromoof hoo dhiifne hin wayyuu???? Mee uummatichi filannoo isaa akka mirkaneeffatuuf haala haa mijeessinu!! QCn dhaabuma kanaan dura itti dhama'aa turan ABO sadarkaa Shaneetti gad-buusanii balaaleffachuun gaddisiisaa dha! Haa ta'u immoo hoo waliigaluu dadhaban illee lamaanuu karaa danda'an mee qabsoo haa finiinsan!
I'm an independent by position when it comes to supporting the 3 OLF factions. In other words, I support one or the other at different times based on single issue.
One of the things I like about the QC group is their stickiness to the truth. Truth in a sense of telling the fact as it happened. As I'm reading this article, it's obvious that the "maangudoo" are not neutral. On different occasions some of them have declared their position of the Oromo cause. For example: Obbo Leencho Lataa and Obbo Dimaa have appeared on panel discussions and interviews and have said and/or implied that their position has changed from seeking independent Oromia to a democratic Ethiopia. Here I’m not supporting or rejecting their position, what I’m trying to convey is that since QC has always preaching about independent Oromia and “Kaayyoo tu cabee” those individuals (at least Obbo Leencho and Obbo Dimaa) would NOT have open mind to mediate the groups. Another truth they pointed me to the recent conference organized by OAA. The individuals that were facilitating the conference have always been known to me as which side of the 3 factions they sided with. My hope was that nowadays, everyone siding with each of the 3 groups have learnt the damage done to our national struggle and decided to work with each other without having a hidden motive. As I read this article and also put some dots together it made me think seriously that most likely this is another orchestration to benefit one or the other group.
On the other hand the Shanee group always hid things (that are not secret) and lie about. For example: just recently I heard on paltalk Obbo Bayan Assoba answering to a question from the public by saying currently we entered into a phase were three of us [the 3 factions] are sitting together on 1 table and discuss our issues. After hearing that I asked my friend in the Shanee group and told me “dhisii inii akasuma sobaa yeroo achi baa’u, lamaa lamaan hasaawaa jiru. Gamaa keenyani QC wojini amaaf dhabaterra. Wana isaa akaa gaariti hin barree garu wali hingalee” Once again I just read on this article “no three way talks have taken place yet.” It’s not only Obbo Bayaan, Obbo Leencho Bati was known for bluntly misinforming people when he was with Obbo Dawud Ibsaa’s group—may be he does the same now but have never heard from him for a long time. Again Dr. Tadassa also misinformed us on the conference “we’re still talking with all groups”. The reality is between QC and Shanee factions for the time being there is no talk.
All of you please be honest to us, your people; we’re your backbone if you only be honest with us. I’m not saying you should tell us organization secrets.
Galtomaa
For the Anonyumous who posted at 12:41 AM:
You said: "We tried QC's way of thinking for the last 40 years, but gained nothing."
I say: Are you discrediting our fallen heros and heroeins and assert that OLF has not acheived anything for the Oromo people. That in itself makes me think that you're not among us--the sons and daughters of the Oromo people. Who knows you're anti Oromo or an Oromo still asleep
You said: ".... Eritrea and others have succeeded"
I say: Eritera has always struggled for independence and have never compromised that and that's how they succeeded.
You said: "If QC doesn't accept Leencoo, Diimaa,.......; so should we talk to Meles or Hailu Shawul to mediate as Manguddoo?"
I say: How on earth you disregard the millions of Oromos and consider only Leencoo and Diimaa. Are you saying the rest of our elders, intellectuals, etc are unfit? Are you saying we only have 2 people that equate to Habasha politicians? If you're Oromo by blood, you bear a mind set of still mentally colonized Oromo individual.
You said: "Let's accept what the majority accept! If you defy the will of the majority then what are fighting for?"
I say: I agree with you on this issue!!
Take a good look to your position and try to correct it.
Hamma arraa dhugaa jiru baruu hin dandeenyen ture amma garuu QCn akka sirrii tahee fi karaa dhugaa irraa jiran naaf galee jira hubadhees. kana amma booda QC- ABO gargaaruuf murteefadhe.Umman keenya kan wareega qaalii baasa tureef bilisummaa oromiyaa fi oromooti malee empire xoophiyaa dimookraateessu miti.
Hamma arraa dhugaa jiru baruu hin dandeenyen ture amma garuu QCn akka sirrii tahee fi karaa dhugaa irraa jiran naaf galee jira hubadhees. kana amma booda QC- ABO gargaaruuf murteefadhe.Umman keenya kan wareega qaalii baasa tureef bilisummaa oromiyaa fi oromooti malee empire xoophiyaa dimookraateessu miti.
Please u may read this.
The Eritrean War of Independence (1 September 1961 – 24 May 1991) was a conflict fought between the Ethiopian government and Eritrean separatists, both before and during the Ethiopian Civil War.
The war went on for 30 years until 1991 when the Eritrean People's Liberation Front (EPLF), having defeated the Ethiopian forces in Eritrea, took control of the country. In April 1993, in a referendum supported by Ethiopia, the Eritrean people voted almost unanimously in favour of independence. Formal international recognition of an independent and sovereign Eritrea followed later the same year.
Bakka: Leencoo Lataa, Diimaa Nagoo, Daawwit Ibsaa, Dr Taaddasaan fi Abbaan Caalaa jiran nagaa fi tokkummaan tasa hin jiru. Kanaaf ragaan seenaa isaan ABO keessatti qabanii dha.Bara Dargii, dirree dhihaa keessatti bololli aangoo Leencoo Lataa fi Diimaa gidduu ture hoogganoota, qondaalota fi miseensota gidduutti jeeqamsa uumaa ture. Kanneen haala kanaan qabsoon itti fufuu hin qabdu jedhanii gaaffii eegalan kanneen akka Yiftaalen garbaa irratti ajaja Leencoo Lataatiin tarkaanfii ajjeechaa irratti fudhateme. Lamaan isaanii gartuu ijaarratanii waraana walshakkisiisaa fi jeeqaa waan turaniif wayyaaneen Goojjama baatee wallagga dhuunfatte.Bololli aangoo Leencoo fi Diimaa gidduu ture, jagna beekamaa kan WBO biratti jaal'atamaa ta'e Lamuun Dargiitti akka harka kennatu godhe. Mootummaa ce'umsaa keessaa erga baanee ammoo waldhabbii isaanii fudhatanii Naayiroobii dhaqanii achitti dhaaba jeequu itti fufanii. Bara 1997, Yemenii irraa dhufanii WBO hiikkachiisanii mooraa baqatatti kan galche Daawwit fi abbaa Caalaa ti Sababa kanaaf, miseensoti WBO hedduu fi qoondaaloti qabsoo keessatti guddatan hedduun hoogganummaa Daawwit fi abbaa Caalaa jibbanii qabsoo keessaa bahan. Jeeqamsi isaanii itti fufee bara 2001 ABO bakka lamatti qoodan. Hooggana isaanii jibbanii Biqilchaa Sanyii fi Lichoon waraana waliin diinatti harka kennatan. Alii Birraa, Qamar, abbaa biyyaa fi namooti hedduun wayyaaneetti harka kennatan jibbinsa hooggana Daawwit irraa ti. Warri jijjiiramaas shanee irraa kan adda bahaniif shanee jibbaniitu. Hundi kun cubbamaa ta'ee shanee qofti sirrii ta'ee? Hoogganoota ABO dirree dhihaa turan guddoo dadhaboo ta'uun isaanii kan ittiin beekamu, qabeennaa guddaa dhaabichi qabu humna waraanaatti jijjiiruu dadhabuu isaanii ti. Nyaati, qorichi, maallaqi, meeshaan mana qorichaa fi manni qorichaa akkasumas makiinaa waraanaa(maajulusa) hedduun osoo jiru, duubbee fi waajjjirri Sudaan keessa osoo jiru, Eertiraa fi Tigree irraa gargaarsa osoo argatanii fi quunnamtii alaaf haala aanjaa osoo qabanii waraana jabaa ABO'f oomishuu hin dandeenne. Dandeetti dhaba isaanii kan mirkaneessu wanneen ragaa ta'an hedduutu jira. Qabeennaa isaanii humna waraanaatti jijjiiruuf dandeetti itti dadhabanii taa'aa ture hunda wayyaanee fi mootummaa Sudaaniitu saame.Warreen seenaa akkasi qaban qoratamanii murtiif dhihaachuu qabu malee furmaata qabsoo ta'uu hin danda'an.Oromoon dhugaatti qabsoo keennaaf furmaata barbaadu, dhugaa hadhaahu kana baqachuu hin qabu. Busaan yoo si qabe, furmaata lamatu jira. Furmaati tokko, osuma hadhaawu qoricha busaa nyaattee fayyuu ykn ammoo hadhawina qoricha busaa kana sodaattee qoricha nyaachuu dhiiftee du'uu dha. Hadhawina qoricha busaa irra dhukkuba irraa fayyuutu bu'aa guddaa qaba waan te'eef isa kanatu filatama. Kanaaf, qabsoo kanaaf jecha dhugaalee fokkatoo fi hadhaawoo akka armaan olii kana fudhatee qabsoo kana fayyisuu qaba.
Dear Shanee Suppotres,
Please tell us what you think about the recent "Ethiopian election'. Do you recall your Bergen decleration "the Oromo people will have nothing to loss from free and fair election... the OLF will take part in the process once a guarantee is in place for periodic fair and free election".
Do not bother about the objective of QC-ABO. Do tell us what is next with your 'kaayyoo'/objective of democratization of Ethiopia.
Do not bother what QC-ABO have achieved. Do please tell us what your surrender (remeber Luchoo Bukura) has achieved for the Oromo nation.
Both Shanee and Jijjirama have no moral authority to preach us about unity when in fact they have destroyed it in the first place.
Rest assured that QC-ABO will liberate you from the jaws of Eritrea. Insha Ala!
To the Anonymous at 11:18AM
I know that you don't seem to be receptive; anyway, I have posted how the Eritreans have come to independence ( read it at 12:10AM). Even though it was gimmicky, their independence was via referendum. I am of the opinion that we need to be able to do the same. instead of bragging independence before even moving an inch to that effect. I very nicely know, may be better than you do, the sacrifice our people have made for bilisummaa. But I should not deny the imbalance between the two! Disappointingly, your current actions do contradict with the cause for which they have fallen. It is not through defamation that we unite; it is through dialogue and understanding that we will be able to finish the unfinished journey to freedom. You may read books or speeches made by Nelson Mandela, Martin Luther King, and others to know how tolerance and co-existence can be achieved. Every body is entitled to a different opinion but blind defamation can not and does not hold water. Politics requires confident and tolerant politicians, and I don't think you are such a person. Oromo politicians must advance the interest of the Oromo people. But you seem to decide the fate of the people defying their verdict. This is nothing but I know for you mentality. Still come to your senses!
I am tried of hearing criminal minded qc cedars. They are responsible for creading regionism among oromo first place and for murdering Thunsands of oromo heroes.Look at their leaders and members, all of them from one town not even one region .They done nothing for oromo while all oromo people from all walks of life and all regions of oromia were supporter of their leadership for 4o years. We are cheating to ourselves to expect some thing good for oromo from so called qc leaders and their members (criminal mined groups).I don,t think reconcilation with qc or without could make any difference for oromo.
Regarding what we should fight for, what some say: kaayyoo tooftaa, kaayyoo ijoo fi kaayyoo tarsimoo are absolute cowardice and it is still meant to confuse Oromoo people from focusing on our fundamental objective of fighting for independent Oromia. While few and naturally unendowed Ertireans, Kosovo, montenegro, Southern Sudaanis people and etc did not go the defeatist and cowardice line as kaayyoo tooftaa why we big people with huge natural endowment that can sustain prologed struggle hesitate when it comes to our natural right of having independent country. Those who try to propose kaayyoo tooftaa as a legitimate course have a hidden agenda of confusing oromo people or they do not have confidence in Oromo or insulting Oromo as coward. Otherwise,those who propose kaayyoo tooftaa might be but Oromos are not less human to fight for complete independence than Ertireans, tigreans, Kosove, Montenegro, Southern Sudan.Shanee people are running out of any argument.
Hi ALL,
it is right that Shanee Gumii seems to be the smart faction of OLF. It's concrete Kaayyoo is Bilisummaa, be it per 'Karaa Nagaa' of OFC or per 'Karaa Waraana' of OLF. Oromo people having Bilisummaa means in practice, Oromo has automatically 'Walabummaa Biyaa', 'Abbaa-biyyummaa' and 'Hiree-murteefanna'. No need to play the role of chimpanzee politicans, who always say a spade is a spade (fixed on Walabummaa Oromia). So now they need to have an alliance even with Habesha democratic forces to achieve Bilisummaa Oromoo. Of course they need a coalition with forces of walabummaa like ONLF and SLF to push further for walabummaa Oromia following Bilisummaa Oromo to get an international recognition for the future Independent Gadaa Republic of Oromia. After securing Oromian Independence, nothing under the sun can hinder Oromo from fostering a UNION of independent Nations in the Horn region!
To Anonymous who posted at 1:04 PM.
1. The Eritreans have fought for independence from the outset and when the time for referendum comes, they advised their ppl and campaigned on a motto of independent Eritrea. That's what I want the OLF to do as the QC repesenative puts it in the confrence, I witnessed online. My understanding of your argument is one can deviate from its fundamental objective and achieve some goal be it other than its original objective. You cited Eritrea as one a case in point. What I'm saying is Eritreans never have told whether their public or international community that they are trying to democratize Ethiopia they always did straight talk "Independent Eritrea"
2. You said for the last 40 years we have not achieved anything. First of all, if you're talking about OLF, it not even 40 years since its establishment. It was constituted in 1974 which is 36 years. If you talking about the Oromo resistance against oppression it more than a century old. Going back to the point of not achieving anything by trying QC’s way; the Oromo people has achieved numerous results of which all the fallen and current OLF members and their supporters should be proud of. Now you come back and say you know better than I the sacrifice they made. Are you saying their sacrifice has not born any fruit? Are you confused? Or trying to confuse others?
3. You said: instead of bragging independence before even moving an inch to that effect. Who is bragging independence? we’re setting our goal. Is setting a final goal bragging? Then moving an inch comes. In that aspect, I think we moved a long way. For example: because of our men and women in arms, OLA, our current and past politicians and our people we now have a territory called Oromia, our people, friends, and enemies know and use our own scripture. Most importantly, the vast majority of our current and future generation do not consider themselves Ethiopians. What’s remaining is the ultimate goal, independence of Oromia in which its citizens and others live in peace together where Oromoos Abaa Biymaa is fully established.
Nagaati!!
To the anonymous who said QC-ABO is from one town,
I am afraid you have got it wrong. I can tell you QC-ABO's leadership (i.e. Gumii Sabaa) is compossed of Oromos from: Wallagaa, Arsi, Haragehe, Boranaa, Tulamaa, Illuu Abaa Boraa. Its memebership is much more broad based than you can imagine. I can forgive you for your ignorance because they do not need to tell you who their leaders are. You would have to join them to know all these.
You also said unite with or without QC-ABO makes no difference. What planet are you on? There is no functional OLF except QC-OLF as we speak. If you like it or not QC-ABO is the victor. I am acually worried about you. You may end up feeling quite desparate in the months and years to come with your blind prejudice.
In any case, good luck to you.
Dear all,
Reconciliation can not be labelled as a real reconciliation if it does not engulf all the parties. Well, I do not think we can gain any progress in our effort of genuine reconciliation by down playing/grading one part while glamorizing the other. Who are QC/LF members? Most of QC members are the senior founding fathers of OLF. I do not understand some peoples’ intentions when they advocate, or insinuate the
non vitality of QC in the reconciliation process. Are we heading to repeat the same mistakes which resulted in reducing the struggle of our Nation to the present status quo, or are we trying to heal the real wounds OLF sustained so far?
Asalaam Aleikum,
To the Anonymous who posted at 2:11pm
You have said "The Eritreans have fought for independence from the outset and when the time for referendum comes, they advised their ppl and campaigned on a motto of independent Eritrea." That's what I want the OLF to do as the QC representative puts it in the conference"
Do you think Shanee is doing something different from this??????? Come on Sir!!
Is Self-determination = Ethiopianization???? Another example TPLF's initial intention was to liberate Tigray. But in due course they realized that grabbing and gripping power in Ethiopia (in order to loot resources and build Tigray) would be better than liberating Tigray. Now they are doing every hell on Earth to the Oromo, especially! Here I don't mean that democratizing Ethiopia is better for the Oromo. I mean political flexibility is indispensable and circumstances dictate; and having power is everything on the planet Earth, as far as I know this world. But, on the other hand, I am surprised to know from the conference, as you have mentioned, that QC accepts self-determination and will be working hard to that effect. However, I still don't fathom the problem it has with Shanee! Now it appears that the problem might be personal, as has been rumored! The other thing: QC is not in good terms with majority of the former or the current OLF leaders. Why is that? I think we need to inculcate the principles of democracy into each and every QC leaders!
Kan biraa Afaan Oromoon dubbachuu fi barreessuun iyyuu bu'aa ABO ti! Ani sana mormaa hin jiru! Garuu, waa tokko immoo milkaa'uun isaa kan ittiin madaalamu, kaayyoon ganama manaa bahameef hoo raawwatame dha. Goal not accomplished! In Management goal/objective not accomplished means there is something wrong somewhere, in the principles of management (planning, organizing, directing,......).
To the comentor who said "In Management goal/objective not accomplished means there is something wrong somewhere ..." You hit the nail on head. It is exactly what the QC-ABO people are saying. They are saying what is wrong is that the Shanee group are the obstacle because they dream of democratizing Ethio and have not been working whole heartedly to realize independent Oromia. What is more, according to AC-ABO, Shanee is confusing the public by claiming they are fighting for independence but in reality working for ethiopianization of the OLF. You see? You are both correct that there is something wrong. What is wrong depends on where you stand. You on the Shanee side, QC-ABO on their side.
Many QC supporters above claimed what they labeled "Shanee OLF" talk about Independent Oromia but they really have "democratic Ethiopia" in their heart". Really? How did you get into their heart and figured that out? Are you magicians? Who is shanee OLF any ways? I have been OLF member for over 20 yrs, I have been a member before the QC is split all the way up to now. I talk to all OLF members all this time. No body even want to see that damn "Ethiopian flag", let alone becoming "Ethiopianists". currently I am with the leadership labelled by QC as "Asmara Group" (chairman Daud Ibsa). When I see that so called "Ethiopian flag" or the name "Ethiopia" itself, it makes me sick to my stomach. All of the members I know have the same feeling. THAT IS THE REALITY! You guys are living in your own artificial world you created for yourself. And yet you call me (and all my jaallan qabsoo) "Ethiopianst"? How pathetic?
Let's say some OLF ("Shanee") leadership has "Ethiopia in his/her heart" as you claim. What possible magic do you think he/she can use to convert all OLF members to "Ethiopians"? AS you very well know, leadership changes in any organization. So that person can not survive for too long.
Any way, I'm so sad on this line of conversation, I can only hope that QC-OLF leadership control their members, make some research before labelling other qabsaa'otaa "warra hiree-murteeffannaa jala dhokatan". That kind of poison (summii) will only kill the person who uttered it.
Good luck to you, if you don't want to be with your qabsaa'ota Oromoo brothers and sisters. Personally I open my arms and say "Please come, come, and join all qasaa'ota, to get rid of this tyrannical regime! I can assure you we are also hungry for bilisummaa!" Other than saying this, and writing in our political program that "only the Oromo people can determine their fate", we can not cut our hearts and show you.
The last commentor:
There are so many facts that we can say "warra hiree-murteeffannaa jala dhokatan" I can enumerate some of them: (1) Agenda nagaa signed in the late '90s, (2) About 2 years ago what was the revealed by Qes Itafa Gobana on VOA Afaan Oromoo that Obbo Dawud Ibsa's group specifically Obbo Tamam has met and signed a treaty to reconcile with Woyyane, etc.
If you have been with OLF for over 20 years and you're true independentist, I applaude you for that we really count on you and you're likes to steer Shanee back to our originally objective. Oh let me ask a poison (summii) you could ask your leader Obbo Dawud Ibsa. In 2001 the e-mail he meant to send to the then comarade of his Obbo Hassen hussen and mistakenly sent to all O-net members. If you don't know or don't recall the content of that e-mail, I can post the exact word here. But, this is the time to unite and does not help.
The QC-ABO belives that Shanee is hideing under the cover of hiree mutafana. Why is that summii? That is truth and unless Shanee changes its position we're going to see that. Did you say it will kill the person uttered it? By the same token what do you say to Obbo Dawud for sending e-mail in which he vowed to ........ never mind.
My friend "last commentor above".
Here is where you seem to be spilliting the hair (just as you have been doing all along).
It is a long standing policy of OLF to negotiate with any regime (or any entity who has interest in the empire) without any pre-condition. That is not "hiree murteeffannaa jala dhokachuu". It is working toward promoting your final goal (which is one step towards bilisummaa through referendum). It is a smart strategy. If you agree come and be under one single OLF leadership, you have the opportunity to raise concern on this and any matter, and it will be decided by majority vote. If you refuse to be under one umberella, Shanee will continue to follow the same or similar strategy unilaterally whether it works or fails. There is nothing to lose in trying. The so called "agenda nagaa", what "Qes Iteffa" said may have happened, formation of AFD, and others are just Shanee Gumii trying to find their way out for the big task, which is, bring about a regime change in Ethiopia and move QBO to another chapter.
I'm amazed that you talk about what has happened in 90's at this time, which by the way didn't produce any result. At that time (and later) you keep on saying shanee is going to "surrender". More than ten years now, it never happened.
But the big point is, if Obbo Zelalem (sorry for calling a name, but he was the one who was quoted as "uttering" what I labelled as "poison") wants real peace, why should he utter such divisive statement? To score points? Was he there to score some points in public or to tell people that they are ready for peace and unity? What he uttered (in a negative and annoying way) simply alienates the other sides. They don't characterize themselves as such. Many Oromos don't see them as such, that was why they have been more supported by the people (at least in a better way than QC) over the 10 or so yrs of your existence.
Another big Q to you. What has QC done (or at least tried) in the last 10 yrs? What are your plans to liberate Oromoia? And what are you practically doing or attempting to do to realize that plan, apart from blaming Shanee? I was hoping you are ready to stop the blame game you've been playing for so long, but apparently you are at it again.
My friend "last commentor above".
You said: It is a long standing policy of OLF to negotiate with any regime (or any entity who has interest in the empire) without any pre-condition.
I say: That is right! Then, why did the Lecno Lataa group, all of them still your members, sign a letter in 1998 for World Lutheran Federation agreeing to accept Ethio. Constitution and to stop armed struggle? Are those two of TPLF preconditions?
You say: That is not "hiree murteeffannaa jala dhokachuu".
I say: Tell me Obbo, what will Shanee advice the Oromo people if and when they get the chance to “hiree murteeffachu?” Whil they advice them to vote for independence or for a united Ethiopia? Why can you not tell to the Oromo people? What are you hiding?
You say: If you agree come and be under one single OLF leadership, you have the opportunity to raise concern on this and any matter, and it will be decided by majority vote.
I say: Ya, ya, ya … if you have so much confidence that the majority will vote with you on this, then why did you try to hand pick Kora Saba attendees in 2001?
You say: If you refuse to be under one umberella, Shanee will continue to follow the same or similar strategy unilaterally whether it works or fails.
I say: See! That is the problem. Shanee is following a strategy which has failed many times before. It is all like Shanee to follow a strategy given to them by foreign powers “unilaterally whether it works or fails.” – Your words.
You said: At that time (and later) you keep on saying shanee is going to "surrender". More than ten years now, it never happened.
I say: That is because Mallasa refused to give them face saving.
You say: Many Oromos don't see them as such, that was why they have been more supported by the people (at least in a better way than QC) over the 10 or so yrs of your existence.
I say: You call that support? That is fooling our people that you are engaged in. Ok, let us you had more support. What have you done with that support? Except tell lies, collect Oromo hard earned money and squander it on firvilous court cases and such?
You say: Another big Q to you. What has QC done (or at least tried) in the last 10 yrs?
I say: I would ask the same question of you. What has Shanee done in the next 10 years except to turn the Oromo struggle back 10 years? Except opening the door for the likes of Qamar (your member), Ali Birraa, Abbaa Biyyaa , Lichoo Bukura, etc … to join TPLF? Except confusing the Oromo people about who is the enemy and who is a friend of our struggle? Tell me. Sir. What has Shanee done for the Oromo struggle in the last 10 years? Ha?
You say: What are your plans to liberate Oromoia?
I say: Read the 1998 OLF program and constitution, NOT the one your group came up in 2004 which change the objective of the Oromo struggle from independent Oromia to “hiree murteeffannoo.” – Hence, Shanee hiding under “hiree murteeffannoo”.
You say: And what are you practically doing or attempting to do to realize that plan, apart from blaming Shanee?
I say: I would ask you the same question. QC-ABO are trying to bring back our lost brothers and sisters to the original kaayyoo so that we can have tokkummaa to strengthen the Oromo camp to defeat the enemy. I believe they are slowly coming to their senses in that regard. After refusing to sit down talk with QC-ABO, they have now realized that it is a futile shenanigan and have now sat down to talk. They have come along a long way not because they wanted to because QC-ABO forced them.
Asalam Aleykum
I am definetely sure that the rabid dogs (Weyane cadres) camouflaged as supporters of OLF-QC and OLF-SG respectively are "quarelling here" just to pour benzine and sow a discord on the small scale conflict between Oromo liberators! They did it for the last ten years and now try to fart, shit and vomit their final attempt for they are sensing that Tokummaa of Oromummaa for Bilisummaa is approaching!
A person who posted at 10:29AM
Are you crazy??? You better visit a physician, please! What did Qees Ittafaa revealed on VOA? Do you think negotiating with the TPLF is a crime? Have you heard that the world superpower US is negotiating with the Talibans?? Are you quite yourself? By the way, it is smartness to exhaust every avenue to peace!! Rakkinni inni guddaan namoota tokko tokkoo ofii taa'aa kan hojjetu jalaa luka butuun hojii isaanitti fakkaata! Shanee guyyaa keessatti sa'aa 24 abaaruu dhiiftee karaa dandeesse hoo qabsoofte maal ta'a????? Please think as a human being!!! Umrii keessan guutuu wal-abaaraa haftuu????? I beg you not to write comments full of blind hatred. Come on please!!!
Please read your comment before you post.
A person who commented at 10:29
insulted the other writer by saing "are you a crazy, think like human being" etc...and then turns around and acuse him of shane abaaru. I don't see any abaarsa in others sides writting but I see in yours.
What a hypocracy?
Dear Shanee who hates Ethiopian flag,
Have you not seen Daud Ibsa at AFD, Taddasaa Ebaa and Lidya Namara at rallies confortably sitting under the Ethiopian flag?
You cannot be serious!
Nuhi warri gartuu Daawwi deggeraa turre hundi keenna badii qabna. Ogguu gartuun kun qabsoo sadarkaa akkasiitti gadi buusu gannoota 10 darbeef callifnee ilaalaa turre. Mana faranjii dhiqnee maallaqa itti guuraa turre bakka silaa feesisuun osoo hin dhaqabsiisiiin Ameerikaa, Naayiroobii fi Asmaraa keessatti fixaa turan. Kun hundi ogguu ta'u maaliif kun ta'a jennee gartuu kana hin gaafanne. Waan isaan hojjetan irratti gaaffii osoo hin kaasin akka jaamaa jala deemaa turre. Kana godhuu kennaan badii guddaa qabsoo Oromoo irratti hojjenneera. " Gadaan gadaa bilisummaa" jedhanii maallaqa nu irraa haa guuran malee,gannoota 10 darbaniif qabsoo kan laamshesse gartuu keennaaf falmuu dhiifnee ummata Oromoo dhiifama gaafannee kaayyoo ummati Oromoo fedhutti haa deebinu. Maallaqi fi deggersi an bifa adda addaan gartuu Daawwitiif godhaa ture qabsoo kana guddoo akka miidhe waan natti dhagahameef Oromoo hunda dhiifaman gaafadha.Miseensoti fi deggertooti gartuu Daawwit turan akka ana waliin dhiifama gaafatanii gara Oromootti deebi'an kabajaan gaafadha. Nuhi miseensoti fi deggertooti gartuu Daawwit badii keenna amanuu irra xiiqii keessa seennee waan jirruuf qabsoo kanaaf jecha badii armaan duraa irraa deebi'uu qabna.
Yes, Negotiating by surrendering our legitimate and natural right is crime. Do you know that an attempt to commit suicide is a crime.
Any negotiation that contradicts the guiding principle,i.e Liberating Oromo,the constitution and the political programme of OLF and the fundamental interest of Oromoo people is absolutly a crime of treason.
QC people:
I read all your views. Unfortuntely, I found myself reading the same bickering and blaming. Nothing comes out of bickering. One thing I learned is Lord knows if any meaningful settelement (reconciliation) takes place with people of such stagnant and dogmatic mind-set.
I wish you good luck. Keep on the bickering. I'm out of here. Yeroon asirratti badu bishaan dhagaa-rratti dhangala'e.
Bye-bye.
Get lost.
If you can't take the heat why are you hear in the first place.
The problem with shane is that they can deal only with easy stuff or some thing that looks easy to them.
You guys are diverted from Bilisumma because you think it is chalanging, hard. Don't run away from a chalange.
Chalange is a mother of success you know.
If you can't take the heat why are you hear in the first place.
The problem with shane is that they can deal only with easy stuff or some thing that looks easy to them.
You guys are diverted from Bilisumma because you think it is chalanging, hard. Don't run away from a chalange.
Chalange is a mother of success you know.
Obboloyaan warri gama bayanatan jedhe abdi godhadhen ture garu amma iyyu wanuma Ethiopia kana irra gara inkutanne fakaata.
Ethiopia kana rakina ishee fii gadadadoo ishee male maaltu itti hafa Oromotti.
Maluuma nuu dabala Ethiopia waliin jirachuun, maalif akkas itti bonya,
uumata baala nu irra inbufne. Aada kenya fii afan kenyaaf kanaja inqabne. Uumata siasan inqqaramiin, doofa. Kan amma ille jarra 18 faa keessa jiru walqixumma barsiifne waliin jiranna jechuun hojii guddo dha.
Oromiya bilisoomsuti irra laafa dham jedha ani kara koo.
Eegaa maluma irra barbaanna namni kana jedhe natti himu jira laata?
Anonymous posters at 2:59pm and 3:03pm,
I have been trying to present examples; thinking that we may come closer to one another. But it does not seem that all my attempts are working. Anyway, I have to still add one regarding negotiations.
Do you remember that OLF, EPLF and TPLF were negotiating with the Derg while the latter was almost coming to its ends? What make/s the one between OLF and TPLF absurd? That is, may be, because QC was not a party to the negotiations? And, above all, do QC supporters believe that insulting one another will advance QABSOO against the enemy? Allow me to suggest one thing! Let all the Oromoo freedom fighters work together today; and let, after liberation, the people decide whose ideology (if there is any difference at all) they prefer most. You know that Hamas and Fatah (in Palestine) don't agree on the course of actions (their struggle), but they never curse each other? It is fathomless Why we fail to tolerate one another? I know that QC's top leaders were once fierce freedom fighters, though now they are working fiercely toward 'zero-sum game.' Pardon my trespasses, if any.
The observer is misunderstood
The article is about OAA's officials interview by VOA on which they recogonized the negotiation by Jaarooli and ignored the others negotiation separatly going on with all 3 factions.
It is about the OAA officials taking side on this matter. Nothing to do with Oromo Unity and little to do if any with the negotiation. I am not sure why people are taking this out of proportion.
If blame is the name of the game it is those OAA officials who didn't tell the whole truth should be balmed.
Long live Oromo Unity!
The current unity and reconciliation is a step in the right direction. I hope and pray it succeeds. I encourage all genuine (the ones who truly would like to see our Qabsaaotaa come together and work together to end the suffering of our people) Oromoo cause leaders, members, supporters and the public to do everything in their power and ability to help this effort. I also plea to OAA, Mangudotta and other parties who take in part in this negotiation to be as fair as possible and not to interject any partisan politics in the reconciliation process.
I also have message for the audience of this blogger and other sites like billisummaa.com:
The people who are cursing each other here are EITHER enemy of the Oromoo people who are adding fuel to the problem. OR, our folks who lack the ability to see the damage such nasty name calling, bickering and insult could bring to our cause and prolong our suffering. To my Oromoo compatriots- I care less whether you are Shane, QC or Jijiiramaa group member/supporter: I’m sorry to say to me it seems like scoring a point is more important to you than the suffering of your people. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE !!! I beg you all stop this and let the reconciliation process resolve this cloud with no bias against any group.
However, Part of me believes that is this a malicious attack against us by our enemies, for that we have to stay together and not get frustrated.
Tokkumaa Qabsaaota rabi nuf hadebisu!!!
God bless you all !!!
To a poster at 2:59pm and 3:03pm,
who thinks QC ABO is not part of the negotiatian?
Do you know that QC ABO is who started the whole negotiqation process. If you haven't done so please read.
http://www.oromoliberationfront.info/press/a-call-to-unite-dec-11-2208.pdf
http://www.oromoliberationfront.info/press/waamicha-abo.pdf
I agree The observer is misunderstood.
If you have listened to the interview (VOA with the chairman and PR of the Oromo Artists' Association) they directly and indirectly endorsed what the Shanee group has been saying all the time by asserting that the division stem from personal ego, power, regionalism. Thest guys, initially, acted as organizers of such a noble action and when they get a chance to reach the broader public their group interest took a front seat as opposed to the Oromo interest, which is unity and reconcillation
I think these two guys are very short sighted. Although, I respect their affilation to any of the 3 OLF factions, I really condemen, what they did on the interview. They have the right to operate under or support any group but should have acted neutral in their response to the question raised. They should considered the negative consequences such greedy act could bring to the effort they are supposed to carry-out.
I blame them too for the wound they inflicted to this effort. If one askes why the answer is cause and effect. If they have not taken position in the interview, the writter/observer would not have written this and had he not written this, there wouldn't be such destructive postings.
You guys, learn from your mistakes !!!
Dear Oromo brothers and sisters,
Fairness and justice are very importnat to bring about reconcilliation. I am trying to understand why everyone is up in arms over this artile. To my understanding here are the facts.
1. The writer does not oppose Oromo reconcilliation. In fact, he says he was’ pleasantly surprised’ when he heard about the OAA conference to support the reconcilliation effort. I have not read any thing in his article which indictaes that he is against Oromo reconcilliation.
2. What he is questioning is the intention of the OAA conference organizers. To that end he reaised very importnat questions. Why does the OAA not support the reconcilliation effort initiated by the QC group. Is OAA biased against QC? Why is the one in which only two parties are involved supported and not the one QC is involved in? I believe that is a big mistake on OAA’s part. If they have a reason for doing so, they should comeout and explain themselves.
3. The writer is actually doing an invaluable service to Oromo reconcilliation efforts. The issues he raised will deter anyone of the parties, or their associated organizations, trying to play their old game. What the writer is saying, in my opinion, is “beware all you old tricksters. I am watching you. Don’t you dare play with the Oromo people’s hope.”
4. I don’t understnad why some condemn the QC people for refusing to accept their rivals (maanguddoo) as mediators. Where is the fairness here? If you were a democrat here in the USA, would you accept Dick Cheney to mediate between you and a republican? Let us be fair, please! Without fairness and justice there will not be reconcilliation.
5. Fairness also dictates that the QC group be recognized for the good work they have done by their call to the other two OLF factions. The other two factions should also be recognized for acepting their rival’s call and sit with them for reconcilliation. They all should be encouraged NOT condemned.
6. Fairness and justice also dictates that the OAA correct its mistake via a statement which should be end of story.
Without unity of Oromo forces we will not get anywhere. Without fairness and justice there will not be unity. Let us try and be fair and just in our dealing with eachother and our organizations.
Oromia Shall be Free.
To the poster at 11:14pm,
You are either misunderstanding me or simply defying! I knew QC's webpage already, no need to read it time and again. But I mentioned that idea, for which you have lately responded, pointing to the last negotiations,which were meant to be held between OLF and TPLF in the Netherlands, which you have condemned vehemently equating it with treason! Anyway, it is good for our common benefit to act sanely in order not to suffer from guilty conscience later or sooner. Thanks a lot!
QC-ABO is a visionary and true OLF leaders.they fought the enemy with the gun, they spent all their life in the field with OLA. they are the icon of the oromo peoples we proud of them. actually they are the one who bring the oromo struggle to the world level. they never been the remote control leaders who want to touch the fire with somebody's hand.
long live the true OLF.
My big problem with some shanee people is that their memory is very short. This is why I doubt whether they can ever remember the damage they caused to the victory scored by oroomo gallant fighters and come to their sense.Read the alalogy of one anonymous writer. He said that Hamas and Fata do not curse one another. What is wrong with this poster? Where was he when Fata was swept away from Gaza by Hamas? To remind you Hamas and Fata did not only curse one another but they fought fiercely untill Fata was dislodged from Gaza. If you people do not know what happened between Hamas and Fata because of the difference in their objective,I have a bid doubt whether you are really ready to prevent that kind of thing from happening to Oromo people by uniting on a single objective.
To Poster at 4:02AM,
Please why you rush to curse someone's idea? Is that the way the QC people taught you?? Why you try to draw attention by intentionally citing the Palestinian Civil War in 2006, and fiercely in 2007, which is not now taking place. Do you know 'let bygones be bygones?'. And again, do you know that the war was induced by external agents? Above all, are you sure that they are still fighting? But QC spent 10 solid years. Read this please! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatah%E2%80%93Hamas_conflict.
But, I doubt your state of mind. Try to be proactive, and always think of a win-win relationship! I think we are on here to exchange ideas, not to insult one another! You are entitled to your views. Good luck!
It is right that Shanee Gumii seems to be the smart faction. It’s concrete Kaayyoo is Bilisummaa, be it per ‘Karaa Nagaa’ of OFC or per ‘Karaa Waraana’ of OLF. Oromo people having Bilisummaa means in practice, Oromo has automatically ‘Walabummaa Biyaa’, ‘Abbaa-biyyummaa’ and ‘Hiree-murteefanna’. No need to play the role of chimpanzee politicans, who always say a spade is a spade (fixed on Walabummaa Oromia). So now they need to have an alliance even with Habesha democratic forces to achieve Bilisummaa Oromoo. Of course they need a coalition with forces of walabummaa like ONLF and SLF to push further for walabummaa Oromia following Bilisummaa Oromo to get an international recognition for the future Independent Gadaa Republic of Oromia. After securing Oromian Independence, nothing under the sun can hinder Oromo from fostering a UNION of independent Nations in the Horn region!
The poster before this one,
You are (or a desciple of) Fayyis Oromia. May I ask where this theory of yours has ever worked or practiced in the world? Or do you guys want to test your theory on your guinea pigs - the Oromo people?
Oromo: To Unlock The Gridlock, Take Independence As The Core-Kaayyoo | Analysis: http://gadaa.com/oduu/?p=2523
Oromo: To Unlock The Gridlock, Take Independence As The Core-Kaayyoo | Analysis: http://gadaa.com/oduu/?p=2523
Some people are fond of re-iterating old stories. Leave that for Historians, please. Yeah Fatah and Hamas fiercely fought over Gaza! It did happen, but was a mistake! Most of the Palestinians admitted this fact. We need to learn from that so that such heinous blunder will not be committed in our liberation struggle. I am afraid some of the comment posters on here are not thinking in a healthy manner. They rush to react to the ideas which are against theirs. I consider the verbal fighting between Shanee Gumii and QC as an 'elephant fight.' Because when two elephants fight the one that suffers is the grass.! Anyway, if we can't struggle under one organization, let's create atmosphere of peace like Fatah and Hamas, and try to push qabsoo forward. Stop name calling please, (Shanee, QC). That doesn't help anyone. Challenge ideas only.
I'm sorry no one seems to take my plea in which I begged all of you to stay away from attacking each other.
Maaloo, Maaloo, Maaloo. wanaa kanaa dhabaa!!! Yoo afaan Inglizi isini galu didee. Kunoo afaan keenyani isin kadhadhaa.
Yaa Waaqayooo atii sabaa koo gargaari sin kadhadhaa!!!
The shanee people are running out of any reasonable and pesuasive arguement that can sustain them. The anonymous who insinuated that their group hate Ethiopian flag is really slumbering to say the list.What does the formation of AFD and the adoption of its flag as Ethiopian flag which Daawwit Ibsa and the rest pleasantly spoke while it was hovering over their head indicate? This is why I am always worried by the short memory of shanee people. I really doubt whether these people can really remember the suffering of our people against which we have been fighting? They do not want us to remember our past by which we can explore our future. For me, this has been part of the conspiracy campeign against our struggle and it is the conspiracy of those who wronged our people not to be held accountable for their past agly deeds against our just cause of liberating our father land Oromia.
Abaan armaan olitii bareesitee, yeroon isaa dhumerra asumaa irrati dhabi. Hasawaa gareen sadeenu VOA Afaan Oromoo irrati godhani dhagefadhu. Yoo dhuga kaa Oromoof wana gaari feetu taatee, caalqaba gaari kana itii ofkalaa jeechu qabdaa; kanafis wanaa darbee hasaa'u dhisii!!! Yoo amoo, Oromoo irrati badi dalagu fetee, caalqabini kuni yoo milkaa'ee sifi dhumachuf ademaa
Yaa sabaa kiyaa waamicha koo dhagesani wanaa dubii asirrati ta'a turee dhaabdanif galatini keesan bilisummaa hata'u Maaloo nama kanafi imoo debii hin keeninaa.
Galatomaa
To the person who commented above:
I too was thinking enough has been said and is time to move on but your comment bellow made me remember shane's atitude at the beginning of the split about 10 years ago.
"Oromoo irrati badi dalagu fetee, caalqabini kuni yoo milkaa'ee sifi dhumachuf ademaa"
This is a warning.
This reminded me of the attitude before the 2001 split, threatening a member to expel from the organization because he questioned ajanda Naga or the leadership or anything that smells like Ethiopian ajenda. Remember those days?
Remember the meetings on which you guys didn't allow discussions on ideological differences freely denying that there is an ideological difference in the organization, a public secret.
Remember the 2 minutes limit to make a case, that too was under a complete harassment, remember the booing… I am not elaborating on this for now.
My brother, those days are over.
If/when we get back together we get back as Oromos, with Oromo values. Under Gada democracy. We will be governed by ilaa fii ilame. Those who inherited a dictatorship from working with/for derg will be batized by Oromo values, ila fii ilame.
Rabii ahiin nuu haga’u till then start practicing Oromuma because Oromumma is not just the blood that flow through our vein.
Just FYI, I was refering to our enemies not to the folks who have disagree on issues.
Any way, I take your advise. Let's move on.
Thank you my brother/sister!!!
Waaqayyoof jedhaa dubbii kana dhaabaa. Haasa'anii, hundee dubbii baranii furmaata barbaaduun waanuma jiru. Ha ta'u malee, Internet irratti ta'uu hin qabu. Bakka diinni keenya gidduu lixee caalaa gargar nu fageessuu danda'u dha Internettiin.
Kanaaf, Waaqa Gurraacha Oromoof jedhaa waan kana dhaabaa.
The reconciliation between three OLF faction is not the goal. The goals are. 1. reconciliation and unity on common objective i.e the establishment of peoples democra tic republic of Oromia 2. Declaring unequivocally that they have agreed to struggle together for this objective on VOA, BBC, on Oromo public gatherings and other oromo public medias 3. To fully and actively work for the implementation of the same without any reservation 4. To be ready to be deployed to where the implementation of this objective requires .i.e walking the talk. For anoymous who want us to keep quiet so that the reconciliation will be achieved, he or she is dead wrong. We know the blunder our blind following caused to our struggle. The silence was one of the conspiracy behind the problem we are trying to solve today. From the beginning, up to the end and the implementation of the reconciliation we have to fully participate in the reconciliation effort being carried out. So this is the right time for us to contribute and control this reconciliation process unlike the one who want us to keep quiet. You jealously protect what you love. Therefore,if we love the real reconciliation that can clean our house and put us all on the same direction we have to gealously guard this reconciliation effort. This involves expressing our views partinant to this issue.So the call for keeping quiet and blindly follow the reconciliation is again different form of conspiracy. Contrary to what the anonymous has asked us to do, I call upon all Oromos to guard against those who want use this reconciliation to further what they failed to achieve for the last ten years. How can one who is real Oromo think that Diimaa Nagoo who has a business interent in ethiopian empire work for the reconciliation that can produce common objective of liberating Oromia. Alamaayyoo Katamaa who has accomulated immense wealth because of his stand against the liberation of Oromia is married to the sister of Diimaa Nagoo's wife. Diimaa is doing business wtih him in Oromia under the protection of Ethiopian colonial government. Diimaa has conflict of interest. Diimaa wants the current Ethiopian status quo to continue so that his and Alamaayyoos business will thrive. Come on Oromo, be matured and never cheated again.
I totally agree with the above contributor. We must be matured more than before as the sabotage on our struggle can be carried out in a variety of ways. As the future of Oromoo and Oromia depends on OLF, it's members and supporters in general and it's leaders in particular, we have to closely scruitinize who is who and who has can pass an integrity test in OLF leadership. Organization lead by flip flopers and with out integrity can go no where. The organization we want to build, the country and the society we want to see largely depends on the kind of leaders we put in position. Leaders who lie and who are corrupt produce organization and society that is corrupt and lies. Ever Oromo must open his or her eyes open as the internal enemy and cospirators are multiplying them selves within us. Leencoo Lataa, run away from the battle field leaving behind the army he organizaed to fight wayyaanee. While he was the second commandr-in-chief of Oromo Liberation army and suppossed to be an example of the rule of law, he again surrendered to wayyaanee government and renounced armed struggle on VOA. Please listen to what he said on VOA then.Ths the time when thousands of Oromo peasants, students and etc were driven to concentration camps in their country by Wayyaanee and OLA was fiercly fighting this colonizers. While he was member of OLF he continued to propagate views that were in contradiction to OLF constitution and political programme. He wrote a book that was aimed at adulterating the cause for which thoudands of Oromos were slaughtered in their houses and villages. He continued and crafted peace agenda which totally violted OLF's fundamental objective. He also crafted a strategy of sowing mistrust in OLF.He and Dr Taaddasaa forged obbo Galaasaa's signature and wrote a letter that renounces OLF's objective and strategy .All these shows how cheuvenist, arogant, dictator, anarchist, untrustworthy, undemocratic Leencoo Lataa is. Then do we really expect reconciliation from this man?
I completely concure with the above comments. Leencoo, Diimaa, Xahaa, Qaxalee and etc can never and will never be a referee in Oromoo conflict while themselves are key players in the conflict. Trusting these people is like trusting a wife who slept with another man. Kana malee Warabootti foon fe'uu ta'a.The only reconciliation that is legitimate and acceptable to Oromo people in general and OLF supporters and members is the one being carried out face to face between the three fanctions.
All the bunches of Asmara Shanee Gumii group: Leencoo, Diimaa, Xahaa, and Dr. Tadassa did succeed to slow down the Oromo Nation's aspiration for the time being. These acts of treason/treacheries are not by accident, but appropriately planned and deliberated the calculated betrayals of the Oromo genuine journey for freedom. But now they leave no stone unturned to appear interested in the unity of the Oromian political entities. They utilize Gadaa.com web site to presumably heal what they did destroy. They are calling themselves Fayyis Oromia. The irony remains, they bring sickness and miseries to the Nation of Oromia, Now, they call themselves Fayyis Oromia.
Whether Fayyis Oromia is shanee or not, enjoy his historical open letter to ALL the leaders of the Oromo liberation movment herre: http://gadaa.com/oduu/?p=3980
It is so sad for Leencco to be reduced to hiding behind alias name Fayyis. One need to be courageous enough to say what he would like to say facing the nation under his own identity. In case he is ashamed of his past, there is an appropriate venue to pursue forgiveness in an honest fashion. I think the word honesty will be over rated for him. What a shame!!!!!!
Bilsuumma.
I challenged the article written by the name "Fayyisa Oromia" on www.gadaa.com but they did not want to publish it. From this, I have come to conclude that gadaa.com is shanee media and it only want to disseminate shanee's propoganda.They do not publish any comment that does not fit their believe. What fearfull these guys are.Regarding Leencoo Lataa:How come a commander who run away from the battle field leaving behind the army he ordered to fight be forgiven? Because of the order he gave how many Oromo lives and properties were destroyed? Leencoo Lataa must be held accountable for what he did to Oromo liberation struggle not to be forgiven. If we forgive crimes of this magnitude, what precedence are we going to create for the next generation?
www.gadaa.com is shanee's mouthpiece. I commented on Fayyisa's article but since my comment did not agree to their propoganda, they did not publish it. Therefore, these shanee people just want talk to themselves. Www.gadaa.com people do not want to be challenged but want to dictate. So let them talk to themselves. Again forgiving Leencoo Lataa is a bad precedence for the next generation.
To the commentor who alleges "www.gadaa.com is shanee's mouthpiece." Have you tried Bilisummaa.com or Oromo affairs? Why waste your time fighting Gadaa? just send to them many Oromo outlets and one of them will post for you.
The author of the article seems to be in the fourth degree (level) of Oromo political evolution. We like it or not all Oromo individuals and institutions do pass through this evolution process, unlike Dr Negasso Gidaada's backward evolution move. Here is the Oromo political evolution:
- first level of the evolution is that of those who do support unitary Abyssinian Empire (AE) as Oromo in Habesha organizations like AEUP, EDP, EPPF, EPRP, G-7 and UDJ are doing (they deny the existence of Oromia and do cry about only Imiye Ethiopia);
- second level of those acting like OPDO, who do claim to be Oromo but accept and adore Abyssinian rule over the Occupied Oromia (OO);
- third level of those acting like OFC, who do claim to to be Oromo and demand Oromian Autonomy (OA) at least within Ethiopian UNION;
- fourth level of those acting like ULFO and do claim the unconditional Oromian Independence (OI) in a form of an independent Gadaa Repubic, the author belongs herre;
- fifth level of those searching to foster the Oromian UNION (OU) planned by AFD, i.e a union of independent nations in the Horn which brings all Oromo in the Horn (in Egypt, Sudan, Ethiopia, Eritrea, Djibouti, Somalia, Kenia and Tanzania) together.
The question to be answered yet is how many of the Oromo individuals and institutions did finsh their evolution process? I know there are some who already have completed their evolution, but tactically make the rhetoric of the lower levels of the evolution. But still there are some who still are convinced to live and move at their lower level of the political evolution! Which one is that of the author? The compelled ones, who do consider the lower levels as tactical goal or the convinced ones, who do accept the lower levels as their strategical goal?
The last Anonymous,
Who said your self claimed "Oromo political evolution" analysis is the right path? I only see this theory on websites that you yourself go around and post them.
As far as the authors level of "Political evolution"? Since you created the level, you can have the pleasure of labeling his/her "level". However, from what I gather the observer/author seems a genuine pro-independent Oromia.
Oromia shall be free!!!
Haa haa haa haaa haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa u all talking rubbish haaaaaaaaaaaaa get real ----Stop talking toooo much --put your sahiiiiit together and fight your enemy to librate OROMIA--Gootummaan Dhalatte Lunna Hintaain---biyyaaf dhalatte Qoocimmaf Hingaagabiin---Dhiirumman Dhalatte Naddhoo hinbaayin---Get up, stand up and fight these cuuuuuntsssss--uuuuuufuckenidiots---Will u shut the big mouth and come join me to kill the enemy in order to librate Ayyoo Oromiya----For God Sake!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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