Wednesday, February 16, 2011

Which Model for the Oromo Struggle: The Recent Arab Uprising, the Former Eastern Block or the South Sudanese?


By Samuel Guutuu

It feels like 1989 in the Arab world. The end of the cold war in 1989 ushered in the revolt in Eastern Europe and finally the fall of the Berlin wall.

2011 ushered in the Arab revolt. The general public led by the middle class in the Arab world seems to have become angry at the lack of progress that has held them back despite their oil wealth. The pervasive corruption that has limited opportunities for the millions who cannot find work has enraged the Arab world from Tunisia to Egypt, to Jordan, to Yemen and the list goes on. Political turmoil is creeping around Arab streets one after another. Is the game over for despotic Arab leaders? Only time will tell.

The driver and the inspiration for the overthrow of communist regimes in 1989, and now Arab leaders, is a call for democracy, freedom, economic opportunity and representative government.

However, there is one notable difference between the uprisings in the former eastern block and the Arab world today. The revolt in the former was not only for, and did not only result in creation of, democracies but also liberation and independence of many nations under alien domination. The notable difference here lays in the fact that we know of no nation seeking liberation from alien domination or independent state in the Arab sphere at least at this time.
On the other hand, the people of South Sudan fought war of liberation for independent state for the past 55 years which finally came to a successful conclusion. They have just announced an overwhelming vote for independence. A new nation is being born on the other side of the western borders of Oromia. The OLF has been conducting a similar war of independence for the past 40 years. The Oromo are struggling against Abyssinian colonial rule akin to the South Sudanese war against Arab rule imposed on them.

It is interesting to read suggestions by some quarters that something like the Arab revolution should be attempted in Ethiopia. While it is natural to wish and try to emulate a successful endeavour, to be led by wish alone is a recipe for failure and even disaster. The importance of taking in to account the similarities and differences in subjective and objective conditions of these societies cannot be over emphasized.

The similarities are obvious for the careful observer: a dictatorial regime, sky high inflation, lack of freedom etc … These similarities have been discussed to death by those who wish for the same upheaval in Ethiopia as, say, in Tunisia. However, there are important differences to be considered here which all opposition groups and commentators can ignore only to the detriment of the peoples of the empire.

The main differences between Tunisia/Egypt (North Africa) and Ethiopia are many folds.

The first is, unlike in the Tunisia/Egypt case, there is an obvious lack of a sizable middle class to lead an urban based street protest to challenge the dictator in Ethiopia. Tunisia’s “per capita income is almost double that of Morocco and Egypt. It's higher than Algeria's, …” Ben Ali ran a police state where the people simply "shut up and consumed" for years which in the process created a sizable middle class. No such middle class exists in the Ethiopian empire to lead and sustain such a resistance.

The second is that Ethiopia is an empire, albeit backward and lethal in its subjugation of not only action but thought. As all empires before it, in order to perpetuate its existence, Ethiopia keeps a tight leash on the use of the rudimentary communications infrastructure in the country. Access to communications media such as cell phones, Facebook, Twitter.and other social networking media that have been used in Tunisia/Egypt is concentrated in the hands of the regime’s supporters besides being monitored and tightly controlled not only during a time of turmoil but at all times.

Thirdly, Ethiopia has no national army to speak of in the first place but an ethnic (Tigrean) army whose loyalty lies with its ethnic base and whose neutrality in an event of a popular upheaval cannot be counted on. This assertion is based not on assumptions but on experiences gained during past popular uprisings in the empire under the current regime.

If the Amhara, the group that considers itself to be archetypal Ethiopian, in addition to Tigray, manages to gather their effort in organizing urban revolt akin to their attempt in the 2005, the striking difference between the Egyptian security forces and the Tigray dominated Ethiopian security forces will become obvious to those who suggest a Tunisian style revolt will succeed in the Ethiopian empire. The former is a national force and the latter is a security force of a nation called Tigray currently colonizing the rest. The Egyptian military is a national army and ordinary residents of Cairo can mount the tanks and talk to their own boys in uniform. Try that to the Agazi force and you will see the difference. It is not that the Agazi are naturally different but they are from Tigray and do not even speak your language. Their national interest which they are given order to protect is not similar to, say, the Oromo national interest or anyone else’s for that matter.

Unlike in the Arab countries, it would be difficult to organize the peoples alongside economic class in the Ethiopian empire. While monopolizing the economy, income disparities, lack of opportunities, and lack of freedom of various sorts are part of the grievance against the regime in Ethiopia they by no means affect all nations and nationalities in that empire equally. While the people whose ethnic brethren are in power (Tigreans) have been benefiting from the status quo, other peoples bore the brunt of the regime’s attack. To maintain the status quo, it is likely that the Tigray people, who currently have the state on their side, will side with the regime thereby changing a popular upheaval against the regime to a conflict between peoples. For a serious analyst of today’s Ethiopia and TPLF psychology, such a scenario is not only possible but inevitability.

For nations like the Oromo who are not only under colony but under the rule of a despot like Meles Zenawi of Ethiopia, the comparison between the uprisings in Tunisia/Egypt and Ethiopia is tempting but wrong. Arab societies are not in revolt against a system imposed on them from outside while the opposite is true for colonized nations like the Oromo in the Ethiopian context. The Arab revolt is a popular uprising to change the system within one nation/state in their respective nations for they consider themselves citizens of the same state. That is not the case for the peoples, nations and nationalities languishing in the Ethiopian empire also dubbed “prison of nations.”

The matter of whether the Oromo should be inspired by the South Sudan success, the Arab revolution or the Eastern European model needs to be answered.

The fact remains that the Ethiopian state is neither Federal, nor Democratic nor a Republic. It is a dying empire. Given the above concerns and the Oromo long term experience with the past two major Ethiopian revolutions both OLF and the Oromo people should model their struggle on the proven method that guarantees freedom and human emancipation from the ugliest system of slavery. The Oromo are well advised to follow the example of South Sudan for their struggle closely mirrors and calls for similar outcome as that of the South Sudanese. Just in case the Ethiopians (Amahara and Tigray) rose against their rulers, the Oromo should use that opportunity to organize and bolster their chance for liberation and independent Oromia just like others did in the former Yugoslavia and the USSR.

Have your say!

89 comments:

Anonymous said...

Obbol Samuel,

I could not agree more. Goos analysis.

Thanks.

Anonymous said...

Thanks Mr Guutu!

A correct analysis of the situation of the Oromo people. Only fools can call for the Tunisian style revolt.

The silly people calling on the youth to face the Agazi are sitting safely in the capitals of the fee world lack integrity.

It is easy they say to catch fire with someone else's hand /harka namaan ibida qabachuun nama hin dhibu/

We have to follow the example of Southern Sudan.

So long!

Anonymous said...

Is this a smart way of scare tactics just to hinder Oromo people from pushing for the possible REVOLUTION? What makes this approach to be different from the effort of Weyane rabid dogs, who work 24/7 to hinder such public uprising? If there are thousands of roads towards ROME, why not the three possible roads (Eastern Europe's way, Arabs' way and South Sudan's way) leading to Independent Oromia? If the REVOLUTION helps Oromo liberation movement to be promoted one step forward (which I believe it will do), why should an Oromo with sound mind cry against such move? I appreciate the move of OLF pushing for the revolution to get rid of the fascist regime of Meles Zenawi and any attempt to save this regime from popular revolution serves only a political interest of Weyane!!

anonmous said...

Harka fuune Obboo Samuel,
I do like your analysis. It is true “Akka abaluun sirba jeettee morma of cabsitee jeedhan”. It is very wise to dance to your own rhythm, with a cautionary steps learned from our own previous steps, including other oppressed Nations practices as well.

Anonymous said...

Actually there is nothing which we, Oromo, should fear not to push for the upcoming revolution. If the fear is a fear of death, then Oromo are already dying now in mass! I don't know why the fear-mongerors do cry so loud now? I do appreciate the Liberators in Oboo Duad's OLF who took a bold step, despite the fear-mongering cry babies. The goal (kaayyoo) of self-determination is a process which encompasses the following three possible outcomes one after another:

- now we do push for Oromian Autonomy within an Ethiopian Union (the most probable immediate outcome of the revoluiton), which is the goal of the Ethiopianists (Federalists) like Obbo Bulchaa;

- then we can push further for Oromian Independence as an outcome of the possible referendum after the freedom, which will be achieved after the revolution; this is the goal of the Oromianists like Obbo Galaasa! That is why the revolution is not necessarily against this goal as some pseudo-nationalists poising as "pro-independence" try to scare us!

- after securing this national independence, there is nothing under the sun, which can hinder us from pushing further for Oropian Union (a Union of Oromo lead independent nations in Cushland) in the region for a better benefit, which is the position of the visionary and farsighted Oropianists. Here again the revolution is not against this move, but it will be the first step towards this lasting political arrangement.

The possibility for the Abysinianists (colonial minded Abysinian elites) to hinder this evolutionary move of Oromo liberation, including the step to be taken through the imminent upcoming revolution, is minimal; that is why the caution called by some Oromo nationalists like this author and the scare tactics applied by Weyane cadres can not be a legitimate reason to inhibit us from pushing for the revolution in order to make the fascist regime be a history.

Anonymous said...

To Anonymous at February 17, 2011 8:31:00 AM EST:

How could you say that this will serve a political interest of Weyane when it calls to follow the example of South Sudan. Incase you didn't hear the news, South sudan has recently decleared it's independence and so will Oromia if it follows south Sudan's example.

Anonymous said...

I am not sure who the anonymous at February 17, 2011 10:26:00 AM EST
calls fear-mongering cry babies? Is he talking about those who advocate for peaseful strugle? obvously, He is not talking about those who suggest armed strugle should be part of the strgle. You can't be afraid of death and raise arms at the same time.

Waqjiraa Gudataa said...

Obbo Samuel,
Thank you for your very timely response to the currently confusing cloud floating on a mighty revolt against the Ethiopian regime. As you mentioned in all three popular uprising cases, it is in our national interest and historical responsibility to analyse on which uprising we should prepare ourselves without exposing our self for anothr failure. How it will be a national painful, if once more Finfinnee be over taken by the Chauvinist old regime?!.

The Tunsian-Egyptian Jasmine Revolution for democracy became a new model for change. However, such kind of uprising in Ethiopian context hardly occurs in the new future due to the fact that as a dying empire it needs a system of change to Liberty and Identity Concern. Where still we can observe how the Chauvinists consider the empire as if their own property while the oppressed nations are struggling for their national Identity. Hence, there is no a common ground for a common popular uprising and as the possible way , we have to concentrate on both models of the former Eastern and Central Europe who did not stop by the line of Democracy instead they used it as Strategical exit from the empire. On that ash, the new prosperity independent nations emerged as the Heros of the modern history in dismantling the old empires from Europe. And also the South Sudan is our optimal option too.

For a notice note for whom still try to advocate the Oromo-Ahmara alliance as mentioned on above opinion to whom I want to challenge cosideing his move as only a fiction Melo - drama. If the memory is correct , what did happen back years ago when the Oromo Students from Haramaayaa to different parts of Oromia were uprising ? Did the Ahmaras express their Solidarity or otherwise?. When the later is the answer the Oromos and oppressed nations should concentrate helping their respective freedom fighters like Croatians/Kosovo Albainians.
Galatoomi.
From Milan

Anonymous said...

I can imagine how Obbo Daud, the Liberator, is driving a train, on which 40 million Oromo are the passengers and have the right to decide on their destination by vote, traveling from Djibouti (the life of slavery)—-through Diredhawa (Oromian Autonomy with in Ethiopian Union)—–and through Adaama (Oromian Independence within African Union)—–to Finfinne (Oropian Union or regional Union of independent nations in the Horn for a better and common benefit)!

- Obbo Daud (pro-selfdetermination) is ready to stop the train, where ever the majority of the passengers want. If the majority say “our last destination is Diredhawa”, he is ready to stop there and live there till again the majority want to travel further to Adaama. Of course Obbo Bulchaa and co try to convince the majority that the life in Diredhawa is the best and that all the 40 million better live there.

- But, if the agitation of Obbo Galaasa can convince the majority of the travelers to move further to Adaama and live there, it seems that Obbo Daud is still ready to drive the train fruther to Adaama and see if the majority is contented in a life in Adaama. Again if the majority, after certain transitional time of debate and discussion, want to move further to Finfinne or back to Diradhawa, the driver is yet ready to move accordingly.

- That means, if also Obbo Fayyis and co. get a momentum and convince the majority to move further to Finfinne and live there the most luxurious life, again Obbo Daud will not be against driving the train forward and satisfy the interest of the majority. In short the Liberators are simply ready to live in all the three destinations, after liberating the mass from the slavery, based on the verdict of the majority.

Here, we can see how the vision of Obbo Daud is smart and mass oriented, whereas of course the other three (the Ethiopianists of Diredhawa, the Oromianists of Adama and the Oropianists of Finfinne have got their fixed kaayyoo to influence the mass and with that persuade the driver of the train as well as decide the lasting destiny of the 40 million passengers of the train.

Now we may ask, if the upcoming REVOLUTION is a means for traveling from Djibouti of the Abyssinianists to Diredhawa (Oromian Autonomy) of the Ethiopianists, why should the Oromianists (pro-independence) and the Oropianists (pro-union of indeopendent nations) cry foul against the smart driver of the train, who knows the route from Djibouti—-through Diredhawa and Adaama—-to Finfinne very well?! I can understand if the slave masters of Djibouti (the Abyssinianists) cry foul, but I can’t see the logic behind the lamenting of the others!

Anonymous said...

Anonymous February 17, 2011 12:23:00 PM EST,
if you have brain to comprehend, it is not his call for South Sudan type of independence which can make his move to serve Weyane's interest, but his move to oppose the possible REVOLUTION (another alternative to help Oromo liberation movement a step forward), that can make the idea of the author to serve Weyane's interest!

Anonymous said...

The idea about peaceful revolution is an absolute nonsense in the Ethiopian context!

If you wish to have a revolution you must go to the mountains. Simple as that.

Those advocating for peaceful demonstration must have the guts to go to Finfinnee and try it. The rest of us must support our boys and girls in the fields of Oromia!

Anonymous said...

Yaa Obbo Fayyis,

Maaloo yoo waan kana dhiifttee? Maqaa jijjiirratee yaaduma tokko irra deddeebitee barreeessuu jechuu kiyya. Djibouti. Dirre Dhowaa, Adaamaa, fi kkf ... yeroo hedduu barreessitee namnni si harkaa fudhatu dhibee atumttii irra deddeebita. Kanneen ati "liberators" ittiin jettuu Shaneenille si harkaa hin fudhanne. Maaloo dhiisi yaa akhii! Irra hin deddeebi'in kaa aboo!

Anonymous said...

Thank you the anonymous before this message. What Obbo Fayyis admitted unknowingly is that his "liberator" driver - Daawud Ibsaa - is not a leader but a follower. If that is the case, what is he doing in that position? Being the driver does not make one the leader, you know.

Following is a posting from one of the Oromo e-mail distribution lists from way back around 2005 when AFD was formed and when Obbo Fayyis's friends where claiming that Daawud Ibsaa's faction was the "driver". Enjoy!

"The analogy quite often thrown around, in relation to
this AFD by some corners, is one of a person being in
the “driver's seat” of a car. In my opinion, none of
them are the “engineers” of, or are “driving” this
So-called alliance. Being in the driver’s seat does
not necessarily mean one is driving the car and/or has
total command of where the car is to travel to, or at
what speed. Let me explain.

Firstly, one can be in the driver’s seat of a parked
car with out the ignition key or any knowledge of how
to drive, imitating a driver. Children are usually
observed doing this when left in a parked car.
Secondly, one can be in the driver’s seat learning how
to drive, following the directions of the driving
instructor and the instructor having the final say in
the direction the car should take, the speed it should
travel at and whether the car should be moving or
parked. In other words, in reality, the instructor is
in total command of the car but allows the student
partial control at his/her discretion. Thirdly, one
can be a driver (chauffer) for some one else and drive
that car according to the wishes of his/her employer.
This is basically an operator who operates the machine
according to his boss’s commands. Fourthly, one can
have his own car, which s/he drives according to
his/her wishes. All four of them are said to be in the
“driver’s seat.” The important thing is not so much
about being the driver or not, but about whether one
is in total command of the car’s movement direction
and speed. I will leave it to the reader to make
his/her judgment as to which of the above four
scenarios fits each of the component organizations of
AFD."

Anonymous said...

The above two anti-Fayyis commentators,

it seems you see Fayyis behind your shadow which follows you and in any corner! Are you scraed of him and why such paranoia? Otherwise, you just tried to spin the opinion in order to discredit Obbo Daud. Yes Daud is merly a dirver and the instructors, who do show the STOP (station), be it Diredhawa, Adaama or Finfinnee, are the 40 million passengers (the Oromo people). Is this bad leader or smart leader? It seems you want a leader, who should dictate and silence the Oromo people or who just be isolated and drive a train without passengers (as most leaders whom you admire nowadays seem to be)! Just wake up and make your mini-brains work!!

Anonymous said...

Anonymous February 17, 2011 9:35:00 PM EST,
erga Shaneen yaada Fayyis hin fudhanne ta'ee, ati maliif akkas boossa ree? Jaalattus jibbituus, Bilisummaan akkuma Fayyis lafa kaahe, suuta sutaan dhufa jirti malee, akka ati nutti himuu barbaadutti miti. Dhugaa lafa jirtu liqimsi.

Anonymous said...

Fayyis, If people see you in any corner (as you put it) it is because
you are on most of the comments.
Your messages, writing style and vocabularies reveal your identity. You have a habit of
insulting those who challenge your ideas.

The following are taken from your comments on this article.
"if you have brain to comprehend"
"make your mini-brains work"
"Are you scared of him and why such paranoia?"
"cry foul against the smart driver of the train"
"Is this a smart way of scare tactics"
"cry foul against the smart driver of the train"
If you search on 3 words (brain, smart, fear) you will get all fayys’s comments on this article.
This time, he forgot to use his favorite phrase - rabid dog.

Anonymous said...

Is Anonymous February 18, 2011 12:19:00 PM EST the owner of the werbsite (Argan Beekan, who also uses the nicks:Gumaa Guddaa and now Samuel Guutuu, when ever he writes articles)? He must be a fool! If anyone using such insulting expressions are Fayyis, then he ends up making at least half of his population be Fayyis! Is there any psychic disease worse than this??

Anonymous said...

Yaa obbo fayyis, ati Ethiopia dhaaf hojeta. Shane waliin kana irratti wal geessu. You guys report to the same boss. Ammaa shanenis hojiishe (Oromumma diigu) fixatte jirti. Kan kee hojiin amma iyyu itti fufan se'a. Maaliif, Oromumma diigu qofan inga'u waan iddosa bu'u barbaachisa - innis ethiopumma jaabessudha. Isaf atu itti jirta. Kan nama gadiisuu shaneen hojii keetti damaqanii jibanni iyyuu gara itti waan diigan (ormumma) deebisan ijarantu rakko itti ta'a jira. Kanatu obblossa/obboleetti koo boosisan se'a

Anonymous said...

Anonymous February 18, 2011 12:36:00 PM EST,
waan Afaan Inglizii siif galu hin fakkaattu; kanaatichi, dhaqii waan Fayyis hamma ammaatti barreese hunda dubbisi! Isaa ti Oromummaa diigu eessatti argite? Yoo xinnaate, khana dubbisi: http://gadaa.com/oduu/6532/2010/10/28/oromia-oromummaa-is-our-primary-identity-and-naming-is-identifying/ Yoo dinnummaa Fayyis irraa qabaatte, funduruma itti himi. "Ayya jiboo sattaamekaany bilaany" jedhu goftoliin khee durii; kkkkkkk!

Anonymous said...

February 17, 2011 8:51:00 AM EST,
there are still blind nationalists in both the Amhara and the Oromo camp (including you), who couldn’t see the common CONVERGENT short term goal, which is a 'FREEDOM from Weyane’s fascism', but they only concentrate on their divergent long term goals: independent Oromia vs united Ethiopia! Actually, if they are smart enough, both the Amhara and the Oromo nationalists can forge an alliance to achieve their convergent short term goal together and then decide on their respecive long term goals per public verdict (by REFERENDUM). Unfortunately they are too far from accepting and respecting the WILL of their respective public as a final verdic. That means, in short they do preach democracy which includes the referendum, but they are not yet ready to practice what they do preach (that means you are not also ready)!

Anonymous said...

fayyis, who gave you the right to call me a blind just because I don't see what you see. I don't look under my nose when I drive or bike, I look far and beyond so that I can see what is coming. You, on the other hand can see only what is under your nose, the fall of wayynne in this case. What happens after that? That is beyond your imagination. Or may be you don't mind if the amharas are over taking.
Change of master is not a cnage to me.

Anonymous said...

"....In short the scare tactics, which the Weyane cadres nowadays are using in forums and paltalks are:

- “if revolution happens, Amharas can take over and dismantle Oromia”
- “if revolution happens, Oromos will be in power and dismember Ethiopia”
- “if revolution happens, Weyane army is not like Tunisia’s army, but will massacre the civillians and takeover power”
- “if revolution happens, there can be a mayhem against the Tigreans, like that of Ruanda”
- “if revolution happens, there will be absolute chaos and civil war among different ethnies”....."

Anonymous said...

This is Argan Beekan.

May I appeal to each and everyone of you who have been honoring me and the authors by visiting the blog that you PLEASE stay on the issue? The issue under discussion is "Which model for the Oromo struggle ..." It is not about who has monopoly over insulting and bad mouthing each other. Instead of calling others "Weyane rabid dogs" - which started this back and forth insults - why not make your case against the idea you oppose? From then on, the discussion degenerated into verbal abuses. Please refrain from such a useless and unproductive waste of your time.

Thanks you.

Anonymous said...

Aite Argan Beekan,
where did you read in this thread the expression "Weyane rabid dog"? Or are you just touched by this expression else where? Why are you concerend if Weyane is insulted as such? Afincaa simmetta ayin yaleqsaal newu negeru?KKKK Otherwise most of the replies here also seem to be from you!

Waqjiraa Gudataa said...

Dear all,
The aim of the article was to invite different opinions for a common interest based on currently politics affecting the globe encluding our Oromia too. our Forum used to be respected and concentrate on constructive views for our destiny. However, for some/ one arrogance approach, we are losing that point. I think it is the best to delete such arrogance in any time. If some body is infulenced by the Ahmaric love should immigrate to the Ahmaraland.
Please our Forum do not allow te be influenced by arrogant, it is beyond the tolerance!.
Galatoomaa!

Anonymous said...

Aite Waqjira,
when you point one finger to others, the rest three point at you! Are you not ignorantly arrogant, when you say delete the opinion of others? What makes your opinion too good not to be deleted. Even if you hate other nations with their language, it is the God-given right of others to write in what ever language they can and want to express themselves. Don't expose your ignorance!

Anonymous said...

Unfortunately, there are still some blind nationalists in both the Amhara and the Oromo camp, who yet couldn’t see the common CONVERGENT short term goal of the two BIG nations, i.e a ‘FREEDOM from Weyane’s fascism’. Such blind nationalists concentrate on only their divergent long term goals: independent Oromia (Oromo's goal) vs united Ethiopia (Amhara's goal)! But the smart nationalists from both the Amhara and the Oromo camps are trying to forge an alliance to achieve together their convergent common short term goal and then to decide on their respective long term goals per public verdict (by REFERENDUM). The blind ones are too far from accepting and respecting the WILL of their respective public as a final verdict. That means, in short, the blind nationalists do preach democracy, which includes the referendum, but they are not yet ready to practice what they do preach! We hope the few smart and genuinely democratic nationalists in both camps, who try to practice what they do preach, will prevail to cooperate and make Weyane's fascism be history!

Anonymous said...

Good idea, but instead of calling them 'blind", let's call them dictatorial nationalists. Those who want to achieve either 'Independent Oromia' or 'United Ethiopia' per public referendum are democratic Oromo nationalists and Amhara nationalists respectively. The others who just want to achieve their goal without a public verdict are purely dictators, who can talk about freedom and democracy, but know nothing what freedom and democracy really mean!

Waqjiraa Gudataa said...

Hi the last Anonym,
You know, we love you , for sure as you are one of our one part. Heartily, what I wanted to express was a minimum respect towards each other as we were monitored also by our foes. As a way to limit ourselves from "Brutta figura"-bad image. Our Oromummaa must given our cultural respect as a pave to pan-Oromummaa. If you felt offend, pardon!.
Who knows if Asmara or Nairobi is nearest to Finfinnee?. In both ways, we are incredibly proud as far as Finfinnee never ever been over taken by the outsiders any more. Our timely difference is only for a vigilance concern. Our stoical Unity is inevitable, a desired national Strength will follow for sure.
Nagati

Anonymous said...

Dear all,

On little observation as to the difference between the type of revolution called for in Ethiopia and that of the successful Tunisian revolution is this. In Tunisia there was no call on people by organised political parties. In Egypt, the Moslem Brothers refrained from saying a lot. The Arab uprising is popular rather than party led.

The Ethiopian political parties (Gimbot 7, Arbanyoch Gimbar, The Asmara Group-OLF etc) are immoral. They call the young generation to face the Ethiopian security without being there in their midst. These opportunist Ethiopian 'politician' should learn from the Moslem Brothers in Egypt.

I am for revolution but not 'copy cat' mimicry. Zenawi is evil and his system is evil. It should have been removed long time ago. But the Oromo question is not the same as the rest of Ethiopia. Yes, it is good to have a democratic neighbour but a neighbour is a neighbour nonetheless. Oromia nad Ethiopia are neighbours and that is that!

I should make it clear that the Oromo should not die for Ethiopian revolution. They say it is better to run your own small revolution than following someone's big revolution.

Warraaqsi muchaa ishee nyaatti; ollaa illee dabalattii!

Anonymous said...

Last Anonymous,
enjoy the following:
Weyane cadres are nowadays very busy to hinder the revolution from taking place in the Ethiopian empire by using the fact that the peoples of the empire are not homogeneous, but different (the colonized and the colonizer), as an instrument of division and polarization. If the scare tactics, which they try to use, hinder the revolution, the only option we the colonized people do have is the anti-colonial armed struggle, even though it is a very difficult job, given the little support we do have from the international community. For the revolution possibilly not to take place, unfortunately also the pro-independence freedom fighters (the Oromo, Ogaden, Sidama... liberation forces) and the pro-unity freedom fighters (the Amhara, Gurage, Harari... patriotic forces) are still mistrusting each other. Both want to secure the direction of the move after FREEDOM from Weyane (secure the result after the revolution). The first bloc wants no reversal of the already achieved victory of a limited cultural autonomy on the way towards national independence (self-determination), whereas the second bloc wants to be sure that the empire stays intact and possiblly the process will be reversed back to the unitary country.

But, why should these people worry too much about the situation after the revolution? Is the caution regarding the unity of the empire, which is lamented by the pro-unity freedom fighters, different from the scare tactics used by the Weyane cadres? The rabid dogs (Weyane cadres) go to Oromo forums and tell us the “worse will come = Amhara will take over and there will never be the reality of Aayyo Oromia, if you push for the revolution”; and then they go to Amhara forums and tell them “take care, the worse will come = OLF can take over and it will be the end of Imiyee Ethiopia, if you make a revolution”. Both Aayyo Oromia and Imiye Ethiopia are actually taken hostage by the Weyane. Whenever Oromo force is stronger, Weyane threaten with the possibility of dismantling Oromia; and whenever Amhara force is stronger, they threaten with dismembering Ethiopia!

Read the rest here: http://www.ethiopianreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=25767

Anonymous said...

I have never heard anyone of my Oromoo compatriots call Oromia "Ayoo Oromiya" As most of us know, we, Oromos, say father land (Biyaa Abaa koo/keenya) NOT our motherland (Enat agerre/agarachin) as other nations (especially the Amharas) express their country. I hope you all understand that I'm trying to show the diffrence between languages to express similar entity. I'm not comparing right verses wrong.
As you can see the anonymous posted on February 19, 2011 12:37:00 PM EST. said “worse will come = Amhara will take over and there will never be the reality of Aayyo Oromia, if you push for the revolution” I don't know where and when he heard or read such expression. I suspect he just made it up to spread what has never been refered as at all. My guess is there is one person whose business is to go around blogs and websites posting the same thing over and over again. It's just copy and paste.

It's true that there are Weyane cadres who are busy distorting truth on the internet and in person on the ground, but it does not mean people who advocate their views that are different from that of the likes of the anonymous above are all Weyane cadres.
Obvioulsy on internet discussion boards there is no sure way of telling which article or comment is genuine and which one comes to comaflouge as concerned party. Therefore, my advice to the person [anonymous above] is to stick with the issue alone. You can remind people that Weyane cadre could be behind the view with only one sentence in your comment or article and use the rest of your ink on the issue at hand. In other words, respond to the issue without dwelling on the person.

Galatomaa.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous February 19, 2011 11:40:00 PM EST,
you are also talking not on the issue at hand, but about the non-issue: fatherland vs motherland! Does it matter if either or both of them are used. Otherwise, you just can say: ididn't hear people calling Aayyoo Oromia, but don't forget that you have only two ears. To your info, there is even a song in Afaan Oromo about Aayyoo Oromo. Try to get and hear it; and don't make fool out of you by telling us Biyya Abbaa khoo is the same to "Abbaa Oromia/fatherland Oromia"! Cheers!

anonmous said...

The basics of ideological bankruptcy is, creating phrases which is not the normal Oromo political lingua; to fit one's own short falls.

Furthermore, it remains basically fraudulent, and disgustful when the same person uses different names, to replicate or duplicate the same rejected political road-map which failed to attract neither any true Oromo political/civil entity, nor individual, except himself. Therefore, I do really see our malignant and malevolent individual's agony and ambivalence in lieu of his empty attempts to attract genuine Oromos for his voodoo concepts of protecting the unity of the dying kingdom.

This deceitful person had been passionately and relentlessly advocating for the unity of Amharas and Oromos so as to get rid of the Woyyanees. Even if we all agree that it is a good idea to get rid of the present Abyssinian hyenas in power, the Oromo Nation is rejected this self indulged righteousnesses because of it's shot sights, unable to distinguish what beyond this personality's vested interests. This short sight blindness is caused by not learning from the past, but just looking at the immediate gratifications he may generate by endangering the long term interests Nation of Oromia, which is total freedom from Abyssinian colonization and Amhara's political shenanigans.

Over all, what ever the Oromo names he may use, or how may times he may write about his day dreams of the hallucinatory collaboration of Amharas and Oromos, it is a dead horse before it’s birth. So it is much better to use his time and energy for some thing else, unless it is the only sources of income for him in such a hard time of now a days to locate a gainful employment.

Thus, the gallant people of Oromia are saying: "No short cut to power= to the Ethiopian palace either for this opportunist daydreamer, nor for the self-centered Amharas riding on the backs of the Oromo Nation".

Oromia shall be free!!!!!
Ulfina wojjin.

Anonymous said...

Aite Filmataa/Yaadasa,
why do you lament in all websites? Enjoy life with your Crime Monster, Melix Zerawi kkkkkkk! I am sure that I will continue to be a torn in the eyes of people like you! You like it or not, both the tokkummaa and the tumsa, which you fear to death, will come against Weyane. Don’t mix up Weyane with Oromo; I know Weyane and its supporters will never accept both the tokkummaa and the tumsa; but just infront of your eyes, both the Amhara and the Oromo victims of Weyane are marching together and surely they will send the tormentors into their demise, take it how long it may! Is this painful to hear/read for you and your likes?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous February 20, 2011 8:16:00 AM EST,
why do you sing here in Oromo forums: "Oromia shall be free!" and then go to Amaara forums and shout: "Itiyoophiya le zelaalem tinur!"? Do you think you can cheat people with such primitive manipulation and prolong the life of Tigrean regime in power? You must be one of the mor'on cadres, in deed!!

anonmous said...

First of all, I know who you are, starting the phrases you often use, and how many times you failed to spell in correct Qubee alphabetical order obbo Yaadasaa’s name. You are a huge disgrace to the Nation of oromia, even worst than Gobanaa Daccee. Abyssinian sell outs like you are in every corner of the long revolutionary journey of the Oromian struggle. Sure we did/will meet others at different corners. But for now, the Nation of Oromia is saying to you “You keep dreaming, Oromia is not going to waist it’s time in another Abyssinian shenanigan “. Be assured!!!!!! What is the difference between the Abyssinian sub-groups: Amharas and Tigres? They all share the same DNA and interest to keep the Nation of Oromia under their primitive subjugations.

Listen carefully and again: No short cut to the power either for you, nor for the Amharas, riding on the back of the Oromo people.
Oromia shall be free with or without you.

Anonymous said...

Aite Yaadasaa,
no surprise! Meles Zenawi has thought his foot soldiers how to write qubee perfectly. Do you think this can make you to be camouflaged perfectly? Still we can see how hard you work to save your master from the coming possible REVOLUTION!

But don’t worry, be happy! Neither ‘tokkummaa qabsaa’ota Oromoo’ nor ‘tumsa hunda-hammataa’ will come in a near future. Some people, who advocated such concepts against the nama-nyaata Weyane are honestily naive, who didn’t know the smart move of Meles Zenawi and the cunning approach of his foot soldiers like you to hinder such effective instruments of the struggle against tyranny.

I really appreciate your biting approach to discourage such innocent Oromo nationalists and now you can celebrate your victory with your Prime Minister; congra for neither of the two projects (neither tokkummaa nor tumsa) seems to be a reality!

anonmous said...

You are hopeless!!!!
I am so sorry for waisting the precious time of my brothers, sisters and elders. You can lead the horse to a river, but you can not make that horse to drink the water, if it's eyes are on different object.
Waqayyoo inni garaa gurrachaa si hagagaaruu!!!

Anonymous said...

Aite Yaadasaa,
you are brilliant cadre; you never wasted your time! You are 3x successful: you hindered the tokkuummaa, you inhibited the tumsa and now you could abort the warraaqsa. What another succes do you want?

The following question was raised by some anti-Weyane forces, but both camps of the freedom fighters couldn't succeed to answer it and to deal with your smart boss and with you the cunning foot soldiers of him:

"....Are the freedom fighters from both blocs (pro-independence freedom fighters and pro-unity freedom fightrers) ready to tacle this scare tactics of Weyane? Can they agree on the middle ground: FREEDOM and REFERENDUM (on self-determination of citizens and nations)? Those freedom fighters, who just sing about the UNCONDITIONAL Independence of nations must cool down and accept the public verdict, as well as those freedom fighters who now cry for UNCONDITIONAL Unity also should learn to be moderates and accept the public verdict. That means both camps must agree on first to get FREEDOM from Weyane fascists and racists, and then democratically decide for either Independence or Unity per REFERENDUM. That means, only democratic independence or democratric unity (independence or unity based on public verdict) can be a lasting solution. We like it or not, all peoples in that region are interdependent, be it they decide for political Independence or for political Union. The political WILL of the peoples in the empire/region is what matters at the end!...." Read the rest here: http://www.ethiopianreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=25776

Anonymous said...

To the Anonymus who asks us to read http://www.ethiopianreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=25767, please take it back to the Ethiopians. We are Oromians and we care less what is written on ethiopianreview.

'Gowwaan waanuma jaallatuun namas jaallata' jedhan!

Anonymous said...

This person, the advocator of Ethiopian unity should be on a related forum, Ethiopian review kkf
Let him go there and sharpen his Amharic which he seem to love from his bottom of his heart. This forum is for Oromos by Oromos to discuss Oromo issue. We will have a discussion on how to live with our neighbors when the time comes, for now our priority is achieve our bilisuuma and walabumma thorough our unity (oromo unity) , integrity and Qabsoo Bilisumma Oromo.

Anonymous said...

Stay on your ethiopian review and keep reading it, don't come back to this forum. You don't belong here.

Anonymous said...

Slowly but surely fayyis is coming out his closet, The ethiopian closet. His destorted theory which no one understood or cared but him is now becoimg clearer. I am not sure why he was beating around the bush all this time, but at the end he got over his fear and came out of his closet to defend ethiopian unity. Conguradulations on revealing your belief, it is easier to deal with you now.

anonmous said...

Fayyis,
Maal ya namichoo Amharat yogaltee si woyya, asirraa maal barbaada, kunoo bakka Oromoon ilaaf ilameendhaan yaada wol gegeedaraani dha!!!!

Dhiis abboo nama nyaaraa haaddatee, safuu Orommumma kan hinbeenne nita'iin. Oromoo biratt namin afaan Amahara haasa'u nama dugaati quufee machaa'e mataa nama dhabee duwwadha.
Machooftee yo jiraatee, dhaqii rafi, amma aqiliin si deebi'utt, malee teesoo worra keesani kan "Ethiopian Review" nutt himuun
nibarbaachisu.

Anonymous said...

I followed the link from ethiopian review which you posted above and couldn't belive what I saw.
I couldn't belive that you were cutting comments from ethiopian review and pasting it here.Comment on February 18, 2011 4:09:00 PM EST
is copied from ethiopian review for example. Who are you my brother? Whom are you working for?

Anonymous said...

Let us stay on the topic which is "Which Model for the Oromo Struggle: The Recent Arab Uprising, the Former Eastern Block or the South Sudanese?"
Let us have a serious discussion as a nation? Please ignore those who are here to distruct us.

Anonymous said...

Aite Yaadasaa and the other Weyane puppets are crying really! I could see that Fayyis has driven these people crazy! He is a very smart anti-Weyane, who killed specially Weyane pigs' mischieve, who try to camoufflage as "pro-independence Oromo" and insult Amhara like Aite Yaadasaa desperately try here and also those who want to pretend as "pro-unity Amhara" in Habesha forums just to curse OLF! The main attemp of these flies is just to sow a discord between Amhara forces and Oromo fronts in order to hinder any sort of alliance between the two camps against their master, Meles Zenawi. Fayyis killed this hidden action of them and now his single handed work has got fruits: the two camps are working together against the fascists! So no wonder if these Weyane dogs curse him and whine here continously. Let them continue to fart and shit! Bravo Fayyis for driving them crazy!!

Anonymous said...

Really interesting! Are these all cadres mad at Fayyis? Why?? No wonder, when we read those ALL Weyane-killing articles from him!!

Anonymous said...

Some Weyane cadres here talk as if they hate Amharainyaa and Ethiopianreview.com, but surely they are still there 24/7 and talk only in Amharinya, when ever they want to communicate with their Habesha gals/wushimmaas! Maaferiya hullaa!

Anonymous said...

Fayyis said
"Fayyis killed this hidden action of them and now his single handed work has got fruits: the two camps are working together against the fascists" February 21, 2011 3:14:00 AM EST
He also mentioned who these forces are on the same comment "Amhara forces and Oromo fronts".
He made it clear what he is working on but this topic is not about ethiopian unity or how to bring Oromo and amharas together. Fayyis is entitiled to work on his ajenda but not here, not under this topic.
I appeal to the blogger to try and make us focuss on the topic. This is a timely and very important topic but keep us focussed.

Anonymous said...

Fayyis can't finish a sentence without using low level araabsoo such as dhuufu, udaan,.... and he he turn around and says his article is a woyyane killing article. If dhuufu and udaan can kill woyyanee then we don't need a bullet. lol

Anonymous said...

Aite Yaadasaa,
I think you need a single more brain cell to understand what is written here! Alliance of Amhara freedom forces and Oromo liberation fronts for FREEDOM from your fascist regime doesn't mean equivalent to struggling for Ethiopian unity. Just take time and study Fayyis Oromia 3000x. You may get his message, unless otherwise it is just part of your Weyane attack against his innocent approach. For now go on and vomit at his abscence!

Anonymous said...

Anonymous February 21, 2011 12:41:00 PM EST,

do you have anything against Fayyis? If YES, then please adress him per his e-mail, it is not fair to gossip about him here, where he might not read! If you want to talk with me, let me explain to you in a very simple way. You wrote "Garu, asi irratis ilaal namichii “Compromise/Fayyis” jedhee of waamu kun Amhara wojjin yo woltanee lollee malee, Oromoon bilisumaa isaa argachuu hindandaa’u jedhaa."

Did I wrote "... Amhara wojjin malee...."? Till now you are just known in this forum for reading what is not written and for hearing what is not said, just to manipualte things for your cunning mission. If you have a cognitive ability to imagine something in abstract way, just try to imagine a very big letter 'Y' and try to distinguish four points on the letter (the bottom tip, the middle junction, the left top tip, and the right top tip). Then imagine that the bottom tip is the status-quo of Ethiopian politics, where both the Amhara and the Oromo are under the TYRANNY of Weyane; the middle junction is a point for FREEDOM of both nations from the tyranny; the left top tip is the point of Oromian INDEPENDENCE; and the right top tip is the point for Ethiopian UNITY.

Then imagine this letter 'Y' is a route of the liberation journy for both the Amhara and the Oromo from the tyranny, from their present common situation. Can you imagine that these two oppressed nations can move from the bottom tip (point of tyranny) to the middle junction (point of freedom) together? This is their common route of the journey towards this common CONVERGING short term goal (kaayyoo). Then after come the two DIVERGING routes towards two different and diverging long term goals of the two nations: the left top tip = Oromian Independence (long term goal of Oromo) and right top tip = Ethiopian Unity (long term goal of Amhara.

Now if you could imagine well, it is not hard to comprehend that we need the Amhara-Oromo alliance (the all-inclusive alliance) to move from the status-quo of tyranny to the point of Freedom, not to move together to the right top tip (together to the Ethiopian Unity goal of Amhara). After achieving our Freedom together, it is upto the Oromo public to decide per REFERENDUM which direction to move further: to the left top tip of Oromian Independence or to the right top tip of Ethiopian Unity.

If the Oromo majority choose to move to the right top tip, then our long term Kaayyoo is similar to that of Amhara. Otherwise, if the majority choose to move to the left top tip, no Amhara can hinder the Oromo nation from achieving this Oromian Independence. I think this is the message you either honestly missed to understand or you cunningly manipulate just to curse and discredit Fayyis Oromia. Did you get my explanation? If not at once, please try to read and imagine the figurative explanation repeatedly! Kanaatichi, akka siif galuuf Rabbi si haa gargaaru!

anonmous said...

Fayyis and Co,
Oromoo nation does not need Y or Z theory. Hiding behind the current prophesy of your voodoo hypothesis will never cleanse the crimes the Amhara dynasty committed against the Nation of Oromia In Balle, Arusii, Rayyaa, Boranaa, ....and all over the vicinities of Oromia. Your empty rhetorics does not worth the paper written on, let alone convincing any body with a sounding mind. Therefore, I do not think it is worth any thing responding to you, except your un-Oromo manners, and the Ethiopian culture polluted linguistic expressions often you retreat to needs to be appropriately channeled into place it deserves = GARBAGE.

Oromia is not for auction/sale. What the Nation of Oromia needs is to be free of Abyssinian colorization, but not another Abyssinian sub-group blessing, or cooperation. You will never understand that, because you do not have the feeling for the miseries and the sufferings of the innocent Oromo Nation in the hands of the Abyssinians. As for you, it could be as easy as playing a chest game, and this one is seen by you, as another round of the game. Contrary to your shallow assumptions, there are true and real Oromo Nation's lives involved here!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Aite Yaadasaa,
shouting "Oromia shall be free" can never make you look like a genuine Oromo. You are Weyane pig trying to discourage Oromo nationalists from moving in a smart way to Bilisummaa, where you and your boss, Melix ZERAWI, will be thrown in to your dustbin. It is really good to observe that Fayyis hit your nerve and you are convulsing daily! He did his job, which you can never reverse. Now Amhara democrats and Oromo nationalists are coming together after you, be it in a form of armed struggle or in a form of public uprising.

Otherwise, I knew that you don't have enough brain cells to imagine cognitively and to understand the above abstract parable! Go on and fart your "Oromia shall be free" rhetoric here in Oromo forums and "Ethiopia shall be saved" rhetoric in Amhara forums. You Weyane flies ignorantly think that only you are clever enough to deceive others!

Anonymous said...

Dear Samuel,
to answer your question at last, we need ALL the three models based on contexts and situations. We make armed struggle to follow the South Sudan way of liberation unconditionally; we try to use the possible REVOLUTION of Egypt model as it is coming now; and of course the revolution can result to either the "Soviet fate" (Oromian independence) or to the "Egypt or South African fate" (Oromo FREEDOM with in Ethiopian context). None of the three is disadvantageous to the Oromo for the outcomes of all the three models are better than the status-quo (better than living under the slavery and tyranny of the Tigrean regime)!!

Anonymous said...

Aite Yaadasaa,
just tell us why you sing two different songs in two different forums at the same time: in Oromo forums your "Oromia shall be free" and in Amhara forums your "Ethiopia shall be saved"! Is there anything common between your two songs? Kkkkkk!

Anonymous said...

Yaadasaa (weddii Hagos),
no genuine Oromo with sound mind call Arsi people as Arusi. You unconsciously exposed yourself. If Fayyis is after you in reality or in only your perception, that is a legitimate measure for he is vehemently against such hypocrite Weyane dogs trying to camouflage as Oromo!!

Anonymous said...

The recent Arab uprising model cannot work for us because:
1) Ethiopia's current government made it clear that it will stay in power till another power bigger than it comes to existence.
2) People in Ethiopia are different with different political experience, different culture, language etc and they have no bond strong enough to keep them together through hardship. Therefore a question of regime change alone cannot be binding question.
3) The Oromo people (and others) lack the resources and technology that the Arab world made use of during the recent uprising.
Because of this and other reasons, in my opinion the recent Arab upraising is not going to be successful at this point.
I think the Oromo need to unite, get organized and prepare for lasting struggle to overthrow not just the current regime but make sure it will be the end to Habasha power over Oromia.

Anonymous said...

I came across this sentence and thought it is relevant to this discussion.

"Ethiopia had 120+ years to convince Oromo we should be part of there nation.
As we know, their strategy of convincing was (still is) through violence and intimidation"

Anonymous said...

I find distinctive similarities on the following commenters on gadaa.com regarding this article.
Smart
Hundumaa Bobbaasaa
Oropianist
Liberator
Hafshaala
Kaatchsa Iluuabbaabor
Walii gallee
Spin
Compromise
Fakkeesitu
Democrat
Dhugaa
Congra
Dhugaa
Namadhiba
Some one is single handly pushing for ethiopian unity as he/she mentioned on this forum.

Anonymous said...

The psychotic Aite Yaadasaa,
do you think that the author of Gadaa.com himself is behind these all nicks? Please visit your psychiatrist, before these symptoms (hallucination, illusion and deluion) will be severe!Kkkkkkkk!!

Anonymous said...

Psychotic Yaadasaa? Suffering from Delusion, illusion and hallucination? What for good terms to describe him, as we know him in forums like Gadaa.com! From now on, we need to treat him as such, not as some one with sound mind, with whom we can reason! Good description!

Anonymous said...

Ha ha ha ha ha! Poor Fayyis was trying to convince the psychotics regarding which way of the QBO can be better or more smart for Oromo? Fayyis himself must be fool by not knowing such reality in forums and paltalks! Most of these cyber-addicts actually do suffer from the above three main symptoms!Kkkkkkkk!!

Anonymous said...

The last Anonymous,
you said it well; people roaming the cyber Oromo forums are mostly the foes, the psychos and the fools! If anyone, let alone Fayyis, tried to convince these three categories, he/she must be really a big FOOL!

Anonymous said...

To anonymous at February 22, 2011 11:31:00 AM EST
Thank you for sharing can't agree more

"Ethiopia had 120+ years to convince Oromo we should be part of their nation.
As we know, their strategy of convincing was (still is) through violence and intimidation"

I want add that their use of mercenaries to do the job.

Anonymous said...

No, it is not the author of gadaa.com, it is fayyis writing on gadaa.com.
I have no problem with gadaa.com but you fayyis, you are preaching Ethiopian unity on Oromo forums and I find that a disrespect for Oromo cause to say the list.

Anonymous said...

Aite Yaadasaa,
Fayyis "preaching Ethiopian Unity" is surely part of your dellusion, illusion and hallucination! Go and study all his articles. I remember his short take on Kaayyoo-Oromoo. He wrote Kaayyoo-Oromo is Hiree-murteeffannaa (self-determination) with three possible outcomes, which we can achieve one after another: the short term (Oromian Autonomy), the CORE-Kaayyoo (Oromian Independence) and the long term (Oromian Union = Union of indeopendent nations). Is this the same to "preaching for Ethiopian unity"? Only the foes (who like to manipulate facts just to attack him), the psychos (who do hallucinate) and the fools (who may read but don't understand) can accuse Fayyis being "pro-Ethiopian Unity". Now the question is, which one are you? The foe or the psycho or the fool? I think you are the second; Kkkkkkkk!

Anonymous said...

Hi guys and gals,
you people are funny, but now let's leave the poor Yaadasaa, who just is against Fayyis, in peace, be it he is a foe, a psycho or a fool! We know both Fayyis and Yaadasaa very well. Time will judge who of them will prevail: Fayyis with his evolutionary way of liberating Oromia or Yaadasaa with his "all or none theory = either achieve walabummaa at once or live further in garbummaa"!

anonmous said...

Bravo, you got it all. Now Obboo Yaadasaa is gone. Oromia shall be free without any problem!!!!!!. Is that your conclusion; you small minds?
Oromia.

anonmous said...

Obbo Oroomia,
It is funny celebrating here the victory of Obboo Fayyis against Obbo Yaadasaa without giving any due process to the validity of Obbo Fayyis' presuppositions!!!!!!.

Anonymous said...

Oromo have nothing to lose, if the expected revolution comes! One thing, beside many, in favour of the Oromo liberation movement is the fact that Weyane will leave Finfinne palace, only after securing its goal, i.e independence of Tigrai; of course together with such move of Weyane, Oromia’s chance to get its independence is high. For this reason, both the Amhara feudal lords like Prof Mesfin and the Western protectors of the Ethiopian empire don’t want to see Weyane being cornered. They surely know that cornering Weyane is almost tantamount to disintegrating the empire. That is why, it is not the Oromo people, but firstly the Weyane itself, secondly the colonial minded Amhara conservative elites and thrirdly their Western handlers, who do fear the coming of the revolution. Thus, the democratic Amhara forces pushing for the revolution is not as such dangerous for Oromo. If not Oromian independence, we can achieve Oromian autonomy with in Ethiopian union (FREEDOM of Oromo people) as a result of the possible revolution. That is why that I tend to say: the articles of both Obbo Ibsaa Guutama and Obbo Samuel Guutu opposing the revolution were based on an irrational fear!

Anonymous said...

Only fools discuss with mental ill people like Fayyis. He is known for creating many nick names and discuss with himself in forums. He was banned many places, now he has ruined Gadaa.com. All commentaries in Gadaa.com belongs to Fayyis.
To admin in this blog you are warned! you either get rid of Fayyis or people will leave you. He is an Amhara dedicated to disturb oromo discusions. You are warned!

Anonymous said...

Anonymous February 26, 2011 6:36:00 AM EST,
he might have cleaned the forums from all dogs, flies and pigs, who thrived by feeding on the dirt (conflicts)kkkkkk. That is why you Weyane dogs are mad at him; he surely will drive you crazy! You will have no chance to rule further in Finfinne palace by divide and rule!!

anonmous said...

Fayyis,
How much you hide your self behind the curtain of cyber space, your are distinct with your filthy mouth calling people dogs, pigs ....etc.

Makmaaksa Oromo kan akkas jedhuu nayaadachiifte: "Lafa rukutaniitu maganyaa ofiin qixxeesu"

Saroota Habashaa baayyee argineerra, kunimmoo kan balaqqama ofii ishee debistee nyaatudha.
Oromoon saba Oromoo gurguruuf amma kee kan hamummatuu jireenya kiyya kessat amma ammatt hin-arginee.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous March 1, 2011 8:53:00 AM EST,
nice to read that Fayyis is such a nigtmare for you Weyane dogs, flies and pigs! Now there are thousands of Fayyis Oromias in both the cyber and the real world, who are checking you the fascists in Finfinne palace. No wonder that you are mad at him; he already killed you; you are just waiting to realize how far he hurt you!

anonmous said...

Atii sareedha.
Si deebisuun nama sigochuudha.
Offiti kolfii, offitis gammadi.

Anonymous said...

Last Anonymous,
do you know that Fayyis, whom you fear and hate to death, made you, the Weyane dog, to vomit like this?!KKKKK

Anonymous said...

I think there are three main possiblle karaa leading us to bilisummaa:

- Armed Struggle, which was the karaa chosen by OLF and by the other Oromo liberation fronts,
- Popular Uprising, which is not yet tried in a well coordinated way, but now seems to be the upcoming option, and
- Electoral Struggle, which was the karaa chosen by OFC and by the other Oromo democratic federalists, despite the undemocratic nature of the empire.

From these three karaa, we have seen that both the Armed Struggle and the Electoral Struggle were not yet successful. The armed struggle is too slow because of the limited support from the so called international community and the electoral struggle failed due to the undemocratic nature of the empire and that of its brutal rulers. The option of the Popular Uprising was tried by only the Oromo students during the time span of 2000 – 2007 and by the Amhara urbanites after the “election” 2005 separately.

Because of the hitherto un-coordination and un-cooperation between the different nations in the empire, specially due to the polarization of the Amhara and the Oromo, the fragmented popular uprisings up to now were not successful. But in the future, it seems that there is a hope for a possible alliance of these nations against the Weyane, which can be successful and also be a quicker way leading us to the bilisummaa. I think the combination of the above three karaa in an optimaly calculated and planned manner is the best way. That is why Weyane cadres nowadays do their best to hinder this REVOLUTION from coming and of course “our smart Afaan Oromo speaking/writing Weyane messangers” are trying to do their job among the Oromo, both here in the cyber world and in the real Oromo community!

anonmous said...

Fayyis or all other names you are hiding behind;
There is always perseverances which was/is admired by all Oromoos across generations, gender or age. That admiration was/is for those who stood up for the causes of Oromoo Nation, spending years after years in the ETHIOPIAN prisons either at Qalliti, Maakellawi, or other dungeons of Abyssinian regimes. Here I do not want to mention names, as I will be offending the selfless sacrifices those cherished patriotic Oromoo personalities rendered for their beloved Nation of Oromia.

Without any apology, I am sorry to say that Fayyis is not, was not, and will never be in that category. No sell out, new Gobanaa Dachees can qualify by trying to sell the Nation of Oromia to Amharas. No matter how many Oromoo and none Oromoo names he may use to tell us the same sellout message, Obboo Fayyis does not have that quality even to sell his own mother with a sustained benefit for himself. Let Waqayyoo inni garaa gurracha help him.

Anonymous said...

Last Anonymous/the rabid dog Yaadasaa,
it is clear that only Weyane dogs, flies and pigs cry foul against Fayyis Oromia for he selectively targets only the blood sucker Weyane, has never been against any Oromo organization, leave alone being against OLF! Don't make fool out of yourself by accusing him as anti-Oromia.

If you have brain cells to understand what he wrote till now, go and study it 3000x; you may get a sudden revelation of his opinion. But sure is that you are Weyane dog, who is trying to discredit him for he is a Weyane-killer! He will drive you further to your grave, just stay tuned! Kkkkkkkk!!!!!

Anonymous said...

As long as Weyane is in power, we will suffer not only as refugee in diaspora, but also as slaves at home in Oromia! Unfortunately Amhara-Oromo stand off is yet a hinderance to the possible REVOLUTION in Ethiopia, a hinderance to the necessary change of the tyrannt regime. It seems that the Amhara-Oromo stand off (neutralizing each other)is a very good historical advantage/opportunity, which Weyane got to rule over Ethiopia without any serious challenge and this stand off didn’t get an appropriate solution. We do still hear/read that both camps (the Amhara camp and the Oromo camp) do live under a grave fear and mistrust of each other, so that they seem to prefer Weyane’s further rule to the possibility of allowing each other take over any sort of power!

Anonymous said...

We know that as long as Weyane is in power, we will suffer not only as refugee in diaspora, but also as slaves at home in Oromia. Unfortunately, the Amhara-Oromo face-off is yet a hinderance to the possible revolution, i.e. a hinderance to the necessary change of the tyrannt regime. It seems that the Amhara-Oromo face-off (neutralizing each other) is a very good historical advantage/opportunity, which Weyane got to rule over Ethiopia without any serious challenge and this face-off didn’t get an appropriate solution. We do still hear/read that both camps (the Amhara camp and the Oromo camp) do live under a grave fear and mistrust of each other, so that they seem to prefer Weyane’s further rule to the possibility of allowing each other take over any sort of power.

anonmous said...

Mental or political sophistication can overcome the unrealistic rambling prophecy which Obbo Fayyis appears to be suffering from. But when he (Obboo Fayyis) proved to be in short of these cognitive, cerebral and rational potentials and characterizations, Obboo Fayyis is left with nothing except repeating the same message over and over again by using different surrogate names.

Friends as well as the core enemies of the Nation of Oromia should rest assured that his sell-out proposition of soliciting the Amharas to be enticed to stand with Oromian quest for freedom, is rejected by the Oromian people and shakers and movers of all the Oromo Nation’s major political entities. The Oromoo people knows very well that one of your core enemies - the proponent of the "Ethiopianism conundrum" - can not free you from their own exploitative grip. Did not happen in past, and will never.

Furthermore, Obbo Fayyis often and so easily resorts to insulting all the sons and daughters of Oromia who happened to disagree with his philosophy of remaining in bondage of slavery to the Abyssinians. On the other-hand, his manners of resorting to a filthy language clearly testifies to the magnitude of his frustration. Out of such inapt desire to get acceptances from both sides, he is left alone on this isle with no creative idea emerging for him except the insults which is typical of Abyssinian pedagogy.

Over all, dear Obboo Fayyis, let me inform you in a plain language: “Oromia is not for sale”.
Asalaam aleikum,

Anonymous said...

Aite Yaadasaa,
if Fayyis is such a desperate nature as you try to describe him, why then you persecute him 24/7? Is he not tormenting your Weyane sorry ass? He exposed your main divide and rule machination and his work has already got fruits. That is what makes you Weyane dogs cry like a baby!Kkkkkkkkk!

anonmous said...

Fayyis, you are pathetic. I am done with you.

anonmous said...

Daer respected Oromos,
Here again,
I came to conclusion that one person who happen to use multiple names often determined to take any issue under the current discussion and divert it to personal attacks with me. That encouraged him to disturb the follow of new ideas except insults, as well as further constructive discussion on the topic. Therefore, I should not enable him and let him continue to prepetuate this classic saboteur mission. As proved, this person is always ready to skew to his goal of hinderances any Oromoo Nation related discussion brought to the table by numerious respected Oromo independent thinkers. So, I chose to ignore him in future.
Asalaam aleikum.

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