Sunday, October 02, 2011

“Independent State of Oromia, a Bargaining Chip” – Dima Noggo Sarbo

In an interview he gave to ESAT (Amhara Satellite TV program) lasting about 90 minutes, Dima Nego gave a lengthy account of the Oromo struggle, the OLF, his involvement in the front and in the transitional government of 1991 in which he served as the minister of information and his opinion on the way forward.

Much of what he told the Habshaa TV station was narration of what has been in the public domain for a long time except for a few pieces he dropped in the course of the interview. Two such information that stood out for many of us were Dima’s claim to first chairmanship of the OLF and his assertions about the “true” intentions of the founders of the organization when they included the realization of independent state of Oromia in their political program.

Dima informed his listeners that the founders of the OLF never meant “itoophiyan la maganxal” (to secede Oromia from Ethiopia). According to Dima, the inclusion of achieving independent state of Oromia in the political program was only for the purpose of using it as bargaining chip in future negotiations with the colonial state. (Listen at end of article)

First Chairmanship

Dima was introduced as the first Chairman of the OLF. The introduction and the fact that Dima referred to himself as such was a surprise to many longtime members of the front for they had never heard that Dima held that position in the organization at any time. However, further investigation revealed that Dima was truly the first chairman elected around the end of 1976. But his chairmanship was to be very short lived before he abandoned the organization and his post.

In early 1977 Dima applied for a scholarship with United Nations Institute for Economic Development and Planning (IDEP) in Dakar, Senegal, and was accepted. Without informing his comrades, Dima abandons his position, boards the plane and leaves for Dakar, Senegal. Upon realizing what had happened, the executive committee members of the OLF got together, removed him from chairmanship and elected Jaal Magarsaa Barii to replace him. According to his contemporaries, Dima severed all contacts with the OLF until he completed his education and was about to return home in 1978. Unfortunately for Dima, “red terror” was in full swing and DERG (the military government at the time) was in the middle of herding off his former comrades to prisons on allegation of being OLF members. Afraid to go home to suffer a similar fate, Dima contacts his former comrades who had escaped the DERG onslaught and were in the middle of opening a second front in Western oromia - the first being in eastern Oromia. Upon being pardoned for abandoning the organization and his post, he was allowed to join them. Over the next 13 years, Dima rose to the position of a Politburo member in the organization.

No wonder this was one of the best kept secrets in the OLF until Dima himself revealed it to a Habashaa media very recently.

But why did Dima decide to claim first chairmanship of the front now in public - after sweeping it under the rug for the last 40 years? Could it be to lend some authority and believability to what he was speaking about? Why did he particularly stress his claim to his short lived chairmanship right when he was about to “reveal” the true intention of the founders of the OLF in relation to why independent Democratic Republic of Oromia was included in the political program? Is Dima credible?

While we are on the issue of credibility, here is what Dima told his sponsors about his activities in 1980s to obtain “Global Leaders Fellowship Program” scholarship: “In the 1980s, Dima was involved in relief work among refugees and internally displaced persons in Ethiopia, Sudan and Somalia. When the military government in Ethiopia collapsed in 1991, he became a member of the new government as a member of the transitional legislature and a cabinet minister in 1991-1992." (Read Here)

As Dima himself admitted in this interview, the truth, however, is far from it. Contrary to what he told his sponsors, in the 1980s, Dima was NEVER “involved in relief work among refugees and internally displaced persons in Ethiopia, Sudan and Somalia.” He was an active participant and, in fact, a politburo member of the OLF. It was as a high ranking officer of the OLF that he became Minister of Information for the Transitional government of Ethiopia (1991 – 1992) to which the OLF was a party. When the OLF withdrew from the transitional government, as he explained in this interview, Dima tendered a written resignation to the TPLF government as a true bureaucrat would do (no freedom fighter would do such a thing), left the country because TPLF “would not guarantee his safety” (no freedom fighter would expect guarantee of safety from his colonizers) and, once again, abandoned the OLF to return to school.

Independent state of Oromia, a bargaining chip?

According to Dima, the call for independence of Oromia was included in the OLF political program for two reasons none of which was “Itoophiyaan la maganxal” – [to truly secede [decolonize] Oromia from Ethiopia]. The first reason was for the purpose of using it as bargaining chip in future possible negotiations with the colonial government of Ethiopia while the second reason was for the sake of being different from EPRP and MEISON – two political organizations that had already accepted the question of nations to self-determination.

Dima’a answers to these questions were huge surprises to the rank and file members and all former leaders of the organization contacted by this writer. They all describe the sense of disbelief, astonishment and betrayal they felt upon listening to what Dima had to say on these issues.

In 1982, Dima gave a similar interview to “Horn of Africa” magazine in which he was asked to “summarize the program of the OLF and tell us how much of it has been put into practice.” His response at the time was “As I stated before, the main goal of the Oromo people’s struggle, led by the OLF, is to end foreign political domination and economic exploitation. In short, [it is] to end Amhara colonial administration of Oromia and to replace it with a democratic, progressive and popular Oromo government.” (Horn of Africa, Vol. 5, No. 1, 1982).

As one of Dima’s contemporaries said “What he [Dima] said on these two issues were absolute lies. As a co-founder of the front, I can tell you that no such points were raised nor considered much less agreed upon. Obbo Dima has the right to change his mind 40 years after he first agreed to Independent state of Oromia. However, to revise history to fit ones current political views in this case would be nothing less than the epitome of opportunism wrapped in dishonesty and lack of integrity.”

Another co-founder of the OLF begins an article he recently wrote in response to the same interview by saying "these days we are starting to twisted tales in foreign language about the OLF from irresponsible veterans, novices and the anonymous." Defending his fallen comrades, the article goes on to say, "When the outlook of martyrs is being destorted and they connot rise to defende themselves, it is believed that this note may serve as an affidavit to some extent." (Read Here)

But does Dima truly understand the implications of what he said?

Simply put, Dima is asserting that our fallen heroes, the likes of Elemo Qilxuu, Gen. Taddasaa Biruu, Magarsaa Barii, Muhe Abdo, Baaroo Tumsaa, Mullis Abbaa Gadaa and more lied to those selfless Oromo youth they put in harm’s way. Besides lying to all, these true sons of the Oromo people who paid the ultimate sacrifice with their lives never intended to bring about a liberated and decolonized Oromia into existence; never did they intend to dismantle the Ethiopian empire and the colonial administration. Dima would have us, and his Amhara audience, believe that the ones alive today, the likes of Jaarra Abba Gadaa, Dhugaasaa Bakakkoo, Galaasaa Dilboo, Ibsaa Guutamaa and more continue to lie to us even after 40 years. Our artisits, the likes of Ebbisa Addunyaa and Usumayyoo Muusaa paid the ultimate sacrifice with their lives for a cause they were cheated into joining. The hundreds of thousands of our brethren who heeded the call of the OLF and joined the front, those who have fallen in the battle fields of Oromia to enemy fire, those who were murdered by consecutive Abyssinian governments, those who endured detention and torture for tens of years were all deceived. There is no other way of understanding Dima’s responses.

This may make Dima’s Amhara audience happy but it could not be further from the truth. If that were the case, there is no way Dima would be the sole custodian of such a “secret”. The only case in which Dima would be the lone keeper of such a “secret” would be if this has been an idea only in Dima Noggo Sarbo’s mind. Even that is doubtful given the various interviews he gave in the last 40 years in which he had given the opposite of his responses to ESAT questions.

I say, Dima’s credibility left much to be desired.

What do you say?!





119 comments:

Anonymous said...

Many thanks for taking the time to findout the truth and taking the time to wite. I have been a member of the OLF for the last 33 years but never knew Dr. Diimaa was ever the chairman. as for what he blubbered about independence of Oromia, I don't believe him at all. I knew almost all of the founders and never heard this from any one of them. Now that he complated his studies, I believe he is looking for employment either as a minister in future Amhara-Ethiopian government or as a researcher with the many experts on Ethiopia including the USA government. May he find one and live happily ever after materially but guilt ridden for his lies.

Keep up the good work.

Anonymous said...

Dr. Diima has stepped out from facts on his narration in the interview. There was really no question in the intention of the founders of the OLF regarding liberation. But whether that was the rightful tactic or strategy for the true liberation of the Oromo people, it is still questionable and time will tell in the future.

In contrary to Dr. Diima’s statement, I believe that the founders of the front, including Mr. Diima, the explicit statement and center of the agreement of the group was clear. It was a statement constructed for liberation. Many have sacrificed their precious life for it. Some of the thousands who paid the highest price with their own life for this statement are Magarsa Bari, Gudinaa Tumsa, Baro Tumsa, Aboma Mitiku, Demissie Techene, Sanbato Lubo, Omer Abrahim, Yigazu Banti, Yonas Kasahun, and many others. These individuals are living legends in the memory of living Oromo today. These days names of these legends and heroes of the nation are rarely mentioned.

But Dr. Diima could question if the statement itself can achieve a better life and dignity for the Oromo people in today’s world political alignment of 21st century. What would be the message of those individuals who made history with their blood in the last thirty years if there were for them to walk with us on the streets of western world and/or in the streets of Finfinee? Are they live a dogmatic life and stick to a dogma of their time or would they look around the global politics and economical complexity of the world and make adjustment to their views?

I disagree with the blogger and the commentators regarding the role of Dr. Diima in Oromo Struggle. He was one of the early pioneers of Oromo Struggle. He was one of the early actors in awakening many of the leaders who some of us admire today. I heard several years ago about his contribution in bring awareness to high school students and the other civil servants around Naqamte, Where he was one of the highly educated civil servants.

Probably Dr. Diima was the chairman during the organizing of the formation of OLF before Obboo Magarsaa was formally elected chairperson. Obboo Diima is intellectual enough and capable leading OLF. Please don’t undercut his role and his nationalism. He is one of the proven Oromo nationalists!
Please don’t aim your weapon (pen) to other Oromo individuals who have proven record in Oromo struggle.

I want to challenge Argan Beekan:
Would you please next to this one blog on the imprisonment of innocent Oromo intellectuals at home? Would you please rally your followers to advocate for people like Bekele Gerba and his fellow Oromo comrades who are suffering at this moment in the notorious TPLF prison? For me the heroes are Bekele and his comrades in the prison for not their fame and advantage, but for simply advocating for Oromo under the gun of Wayanne.

Adios

Anonymous said...

Dear all,

Please give your comments in a constractive way. Please be polite and think positive always. I am not happy how Dr. Dima is commented in this case.I am sure most of us have never done 1 out of million of him. Waal beekna boyee nyanee boyee fakanee deemu malee waan amma oromon keesa jiruuf waan tookole gumachaa kan hinjiree oromoo meeqaa?? Isa kanaa yaadaati uf ilaalaa.

Nagaatti.

Balaambal said...

This is a shame for the Qubee generation to think that such individuals were leading the OLF and the Qubee generation followed 'leaders' who couldn't even lead themselves!! If such peoples were really leaders, the current weakness that is observed in the OLF has a right cause or source. How on earth could such a big organization have become effective when 'leaders' who didn't have the courage, bravery, commitment (even for their own program) lead it? Losers who mostly avert risk play dual games. When they think that their team is playing well they do whatever they can to assume some position/place in the team. When things are not going good with their team/group (mainly due to such individuals' indcisiveness and risk avoidance bahaviour)they will quickly align themselves with a group that has a winner/winning psychology even if such groups are young or immature as compared to the big and mature organization like the OLF).
The points I want to put here is that, as a survivor of torture, it is not only the dictators and perpetrators that we should take to the international criminal court but also such individuals who, wihtout having creal idea and commitment for a just cause they unknowingly assumed a 'leadership' position and caused a great damage to the Oromo people. This means that such individuals have been making business with the blood of the Oromoo people and come out to show their collaboration with the group that had been inflicting great damage to the Oromo people. If we, as Oromo torture survivors, have to file a charge against people or systems who have tortured us, injured us, mistreated and damage our lives Obbo Dima will be the first.

Anonymous said...

Dear all,

Do not waste your time listening to what this idiot is blubbering! This idiot knows nothing apart from his own belly. He is the most useless human being ever walked God's earth.

Listen to this: "inde agaxaami hono be Ilubabor kiflehager Gore akabaabii nawu ye te waledikuut". Total apology for being born, total self denial, lack of identity and moral fabric. The very basic things that makes one a human being. It seems true his birth is nature's error. I even suspect that his mother might have buried the baby Dima and brought up the afterbirth.

Leave aside his self betrayal, and look at his lies:

Lie no. 1. He said he left the OLF some 13 years ago. But he not only attended the Shanee assembly in Asmara in 2004, but also made a speech.

Lie no. 2. He said there is a debate in the OLF about its objectives since it was formed 40 years ago. However, in defending the Shanee in 2001 he said (the video exists) there has been no debate about the OLF political program.

Lie no. 3. He said the objective of independence was added to the program to be different from the EEPRP and MEISON. But the OLF was founded before these Ethiopian organizations (OLF in 1973; EPRP & MEISON in 1975).

Lie no. 4. He has stopped involvement in the OLF 13 years ago. But he is the leading figure in the Jijjirama faction of the Shane. He is second only the Kamal Gelchu. His name appears no. 2 in the list (see the first press release from Jijjirama i.e. declaration of their leadership).

Lie no. 5. He said he has no current role in the OLF. But, in Nov 2005 he accompanied Lenco Lata and Daud Ibsa in the grand American tour as a high Shanee official agitating the diaspora to return to Ethiopia. You remember the infamous "the majority wants to return to Ethiopia"?

His biggest lie of all is his feeble attempt to say that the OLF never believed in Democratic Republic of Oromia. This is treason!

By the way he thinks in Amaharic. Idiot! Kan qullaa kaattee irra kan ibsaa fuute! jedha Oromoon keenya.

In a way I am glad this morons are coming out of their closet.

Nagaan jiraadha Oromoon martinu!



Lie no. 1:

Anonymous said...

I'm not a card holding member of the OLF but have been associated with the organization and particularly its founding members for around 40 years. Have participated in countless discussions regarding the strategic goal of the OLF (independence versus some sort of autonomy within a federated Ethiopia).

In those days independence was never advocated as a serious option and I can recall now that the consensus view in the mid- 1970s among the socialist/ nationalist Oromo youth activists( notably Muhe, Demisse, Aboma, Mulugeta, Ayele, even Galaasaa....)clearly gravitated toward finding a resolution to the Oromo issue within the parameters of an Ethiopian state for reasons that are too deep and numerous to raise here.

How this view evolved into a policy to establish an independent Oromia is beyond my competence to explain although I 'm fully aware of the oft vitriolic and interminable debate regarding the pros and cons surrounding the issue. I don't wish to venture there here and now only to find myself embroiled in what I consider a futile exercise.

The fact that Dima disclosed taht the question of independence was put forward(in a very undiplomatic terms for a person of his caliber) as a bargaining chip may come as a surprise to some of us but may sadly be true. Our history of the past few decades have shown that independence is neither politically viable nor historically correct. Otherwise, Oromos---the preponderant majority of the Ethiopian population---would have long risen up in arms and overrun the "colonizer". Could it possibly be the case that the reason that didn't happen is that they are not a colonized people?! As true elitists, we've never taken a pose to ask the fundamental question: What do Oromos want? But then why take the trouble, after all we (the self-appointed) leaders are also Oromos!

Dima from his interview with ESAT has come across as a neutral forced into his position as a result of the recrimination, animosity and division that has wrecked the OLF. I guess it was inevitable in light of the leadership's detachment from the reality of Oromia and the feelings and aspirations of the Oromo masses. I've known him starting from our student days and he has always conducted himself with dignity and integrity and deserves our respect.

Anonymous said...

To above commenter,
If you have never been a card holding member,how did you participate in strategic goal of the OLF. "{independence versus some sort of autonomy within a federated Ethiopia)" ?
some of the people you mentioned are still alive and can defend themselves but the sad story is of those heros who are not with us to defend themselves.

Anonymous said...

I meant how did you participate in the discussion? if you are never been a member. Are you talking about a discussion at dinner table at friends house. If you are talking about a serious discussion you obvoously have to be a memeber.

Anonymous said...

Obbo Dima's stand is the result of political evolution within OLF. Like many common Oromo nationals(including those strong Oromo nationals who marched home like Ali Birra, Aba Biyya, Qamar Yousuf, Naho Gobana, ....and thousand others who back marched from the journey of OLF), Dima seems to have suffered tremendous frustration. I just wonder why Oromos are sooo LIFISFIS?

Anonymous said...

Dr. Dima spoke the truth.It is true that there is a big debate among Oromos about the struggle. Inwardly, most Oromos do not believe total separation is in the best interest of the Oromo nation. That is the only reason why the struggle has been stagnated.

Anonymous said...

To the Anonymous before my comment:

The question is not whether Dr. Dima is correct about what the Oromo people want today or not. It is if he told the truth about what the intention of the founders of the OLF was 40 years ago. As everyone knows, Dr. Dima has the right to quesstion the objective of the OLF. No one is disputing that. What poeple are disputing is his right to re-write history to fit his current views.

You said "most Oromos do not believe total separation is in the best interest of the Oromo nation. That is the only reason why the struggle has been stagnated." I don't think you believe that deep inside. I am not even going to ask how you know that because I know for a fact that you don't know. The truth is with leaders like Dr. Dima, who never believed in its objective (Dr. Dima's words), leading the organization for decades, the objective did not stand a chance. That, I believe, is why the struggle stagnated. It is because the Dimas (not all leaders) of OLF never believed in total separation but are sitting on their butts and waiting for the day the Abyssinians would negotiate power sharing with them.

That I believe is the cause for the stagnation.

Anonymous said...

You said …… That, I believe, is why the struggle stagnated. It is because the Dimas (not all leaders) of OLF never believed in total separation but are sitting on their butts and waiting for the day the Abyssinians would negotiate power sharing with them.

It might be true that leaders like Diimas of the Front never believed in the total separation of the Oromia from the empire. They were/are probably sitting on their butts and waiting for a miracle to happen. But what about your dedicated leaders who are working day and night? Where is their butt today? Where are they? What have they produced in the last 10 years except enjoying the suffering of the nation under a cruel regime of TPLF? Please don’t point your pointing finger to others. There are a lot to be said about your faction of the organization.

When would you and other QC supporters stop focusing on demonizing of other factions of this front? The Front is now a curse. Yes, this Front became a curse for Oromo nation. Oromo people accepted this organization to be a redeemer of the nation. But it became a curse in their life and to the existence of their family. Each and every Oromo who has self-awareness of his/her nation or who has a potential to make a difference in his/her community is thrown to prison with a name tag called OLF.

But at the same time you and other lovers of the QC are sharpening your pencils and tongue to demonize the other factions or their leaders instead of contributing your share to the shortening of the suffering of the nation. I don’t hear from other factions or their online sites about demonization of the other factions. In contrary, this blog become the fertile soil to further factionalize the Oromo people. If you believe the truth is on your side, please stop about the others or halt demonizing the Ayyuus of Oromo. This form of action is un-Oromo and benefits no one except the enemy.

A note:
I am not member of any of the factions. But I don’t see any value in attacking elders who sacrificed at least some thing from their precious life. Most of the discourteous individuals on this blog who attempt to degrade these leaders have done nothing in the course of the OLFs 40 years of journey. Probably they have contributed few hundreds or thousands in during this journey, which is probably much less than the amount given by non-members who are silent in this type of debate.

Good bye,

Xirqanaa irra

Anonymous said...

It is surprising when the diasporas (Oromos) generalize about the Oromo peoples feeling and stand regarding the question of the independence of Oromia. Some of the comments look like as if they are from diaspora Habeshas. The young Oromo generation has been proving the strength, capacity and heroism of the Oromo people to the dictators and other Habeshas in Ethiopia by challenging the TPLF's security system in the late 90's & early 00's and giving lesson(experience) & courage to the Habesha students that TPLF could be challenged from within. In one insatance in 2004 Oromo students staged a demonistration infront Mekonnen hall of University president's office)in 6 Kilo campus. The then vice prsident talked to the students and ordered them to disperse otherwise they would be taken by police for disobedience. The heros didn't give attention to the warning and threat. Suddenly Woyane Federal Police & securities came in five directions towards the students who were sitting infront of the president's office, shouting and denouncing the system. One incident that proved the heroism of Oromo students in that demonistration was that while Oromo students who were confronting the highly equiped security & military of Woyane were confidently and chanting, Habesha students who were standing at adistant location from Oromos were crying and begging Oromo friends to leave that area for the sake of their safety. Oromos insisted in their stand showing commitment for their question and most of them were later taken to Kolfe camp by more than 200-300 police & security force and tortured there. Such and other brave acts of Oromo students that were given wide coverage by most private news papers in Finfinnee in those days was later taken as an example and paved the way for other Habesha organizations to shake TPLF/Woyane from Finfinnee in 2005. So, the current Oromo generation in Oromia is by far ahead of the former 'leaders' and the diaspora. This generation is bold, committed & smart and has the courage to face enemy. Let alone the question of independence that even minority people like Tigray had secured, it clearly understands that with commitment and courage Oromo has more than enough potential to solve even comlex and complicated problems in the region than the minor question of independence. That means the quset for independence will remain complex and dream for the old risk averters not for the this generation calculated risk takers.
Therefore, the issue that whether or not the question of independence was in the program of the former OLF leaders could not be an issue for this generation. Even if it was not included or was not seriously taken by the former leaders, it would be included and should be included as far as colonialism exists. AND SHOULD BE ATTAINED BY DISMANTELLING COLONIAL SYSTEM!!! This is not out of emotion but based on the facts in the current Oromo generation that has been crying and dying for liberation and saying 'our leaders have failed us and will not fail us again!!'
Finally, those who couldn't even make environmental scan of their area in those days as to the strength and weakness of the force of Derg regime and are telling us a shamefull history that they requested the TPLF to take the administrative and political control of the areas that the TPLF would liberate in Western Oromia shuld have kept such history for themselves. Obbo Dima was there not to die and get the liberation he was looking for but in search others who would die for them and give them the control over the liberated lands. This is shame. The TPLF was being far away from West Oromia had scanned the environment, the geopolitics, and the Derge power concentration areas and requested permission to attack the Derg from the West. Obbo Dima now tells us that he opposed it because they were not willing to die and give him the land. It would have been better for obbo Dima, had he told us another fictitious reason for blocking TPLF's request at that time.

Anonymous said...

To the person who asked how I was able to participate in discussions on the future of my people without being a card holding member, suffice it to say, without indulging into the specificity of space and time, that the individuals I mentioned and myself were brought together by the circumstances of the time, whereby, I'm proud to say, we were able to conduct thorough, intelligent and democratic debates in no other capacity than mere Oromo intellectual activists, mind you. At the time independence was never high on our agenda.

I cannot speak to what changed so drastically in a short while as to necessitate the inclusion of independence as a goal of the OLF. I leave that to the framers of the OLF program.

Anonymous said...

"The quset for independence will remain complex and dream for the old risk averters not for the this generation calculated risk takers."
Ameen!
You renewed my hope, you made my day.

Hilluu said...

Dr. Dima can hardly be more wrong both on his fact and tact. Many founding members of the OLF, ironically including Dr. Dima himself, have stated on numerous occasions that the fundamental objective of the OLF is to establish and a free and independent republic or Oromia. Even the reference to voluntary formation of union with other peoples in the region has been understood by the founding fathers that it would what a liberated Oromia may opt to to do out of goodwill and good and mutual benefit, and not what might come as a result of coercion by the enemy. It is unimaginable a person of Dr. Dima's caliber failed to grasp this fact and one can only assume he backtracked on his facts out of his self-imposed frustration. As far as the current generation is concerned, his kind of opinion on Oromo question is one that may be shared by a tiny minority at best.

Why did Dr. Dima do what he did on ESAT, you ask? Well can get the answer by asking yourself, why did the dog bark after the hyena has passed?

Balaambal said...

“Hundered ship led by one lion is more powerful than hundred lions led by one ship.” Drucker. An interesting quote on leadership.

Haven't they see with their necked eyes what the Habeshas did in 2005 to Woyane following the continous Oromo students resistance to TPLF in Finfinne and different Oromia towns? Our leaders, even the most respected ones, have been putting the issue/problem of Geopolitics and topography as a pretext for their ineffectiveness and lack of success. That was, infact, a pretext that the young generatiion didn't accept from the very beginning. 'Qindoominaa' didn't put the geopolitics as a problem when they shaked TPLF from Finfinne and changed the center/capital city into a war zone. They didn't need to negotiate with the Sudan or Kenya or Somalia to get access to the border. That is it. It was merly the result of commitment and being systematic. "Dhiira garaa kutatte bishaan raafuutu gabbisa!" They gained some experience from Oromo students' movements.

Anonymous said...

Akka tasaa Iluabbaboorattan dhladhee jechuun maal jechuudha?

Haadhatu ulfaan utu kara deemu Iluabbaboora geesse deese jechudha moo maal jechudha laata?

Anonymous said...

Adios/Xirqana

You keep saying “I am not member of any of the factions”.

Who’s member are you then?

I wouldn’t have asked if you had something positive to say.

You criticize the blogger and QC-ABO just for the sake of criticizing on every opportunity you get and every article written lately. To use your own term you are “sharpening your pencils” just to discredit the blogger and QC-ABO.

When you say “I don’t hear from other factions or their online sites about demonization of the other factions”
Do you really mean it? The factions you are talking about not just demonize QC-ABO but on several occasions they tried to block QC-ABO from having meetings, asked business owners not to rent them meeting halls, collected their fliers and trashed them so that people don’t see it, announced on the soccer team that QC-ABO meeting has been cancelled when it was on, most importantly took them to Minnesota court.

You hear what you choose to hear but the truth is out there.

Anonymous said...

Someone said …Haadhatu ulfaan utu kara deemu Iluabbaboora geesse deese jechudha moo maal jechudha laata?

How low are we getting these days? The diaspora Oromo are getting to a point where they can’t differentiate issues from personality. People are trying to trash personality of individuals they got in the focus of their aim. Such practice will get us nowhere.

Please learn from Abyssinians the way they treat each other. They are good enough to filter issues from personality. They never go down to the level we are doing against one another. Of course, they are excellent to attack personalities of the other nations and nationalities, but not their fellow habasha.

Please refrain yourself from concentrating on character assassination of fellow Oromo. The individual with the above comment should have same safuu at least for the Mother of this fellow Oromo.

"Adageen hama lafa irra eejetuu namara eejetii" jedha Oromooni.

Please try to be at high standard.

Anonymous said...

It had geen cleary written in the original political program of OLF about stablishment of INDEPENDENT OROMIA STATE Why many of you didn't mention revised program during 1998 there is no single word about independent oromia in it.You QC's changed independence with self deteremination Dr Diima did not change independence with unclear word "selfdetremination"
Taking single phrase from Dr Diima comment and interpreting hundred times does not give any benefit for QCs paper tigers. Dr Diima is one of the most capable leaders. That is why they trusted and elected him as a chairman then served OLF as one of the leading personality as member of Politburo as the writer mentioned for 13 years. He knows what to say. QC-OlF are the the paper tigers. Know you directed your pen to damage jaal Dr Diima.The writer and many of you get shocked when you hear someone else being the 1st OLF leader.Why this is an issue for you? He did not claim. Really, he was. What is wrong?

Anonymous said...

Adios,

You said "The writer and many of you get shocked when you hear someone else being the 1st OLF leader.Why this is an issue for you? He did not claim."

He did claim, Please go back to the interview and listen.

Why did he claim is the question many are raising. Most imporntantly for me as a reader why wasn't this a public knowladge. Is it because OLF didn'nt want to get to the fact that Dima abondond the Organization he was leading and went to Senegal for school and came back and join the Organization after graduation and became a leader again. I can see how hard this is to expalin but they should have done it anyways atleast to their members and supporters.

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Dr. Dima is not the only former leader to fall into the dirty trap of Ethiopianism. He and his likes cannot see beyond the Ethiopia that was curved in their minds. They are too weak to break the yoke of colonialism even in their own minds, let alone lead a truely liberation struggle.

But on the other side it is realy good that we know where they stand and can leave them behind.

But the main result of this all shuold be that we seriously debate the issue of oromo liberation struggle vis a vis separation from the Ethiopian colonial empire. Can an organization call itself a liberation front without standing för liberation? (lie?) What is the difference between an Ethiopian so called multynational political organization and a liberation front? If we stand for the so called democratization of the evil empire then we have to organize ourselves with the rest of the population like the Amahara, Tigre, Gurage, etc. and try our luck.

Separation is a negative word for the colonialists. For oss liberation is the leading gol. We do not care about Ethiopia. First we have to get rid of the colonial rule and all its legacies and then we choose who we would like to live with. In the modern world it is only the national state that best serves the interests of a nation. That is why we fight for our own state, not to destroy Ethiopia. Ethiopia is not in our concern.We are not at all cancerned about it. We only reject it as a clonial construct that stands in our way nd as such has to be removed.

We cannot achieve democracy in a colonial state. No way. If we are to democratize the region we have to first get rid of the colonial empire and liberate all the peoples. Then we can talk about union, brotherhood, equality and democracy. Thank you!!

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My comment “Haadhatu ulfaan utu kara deemu Iluabbaboora geesse deese jechudha moo maal jechudha laata?” has upset someone.

I was asking what he meant by “I was Born in Illubabor by accident”, Was his mother visiting Illubabor when she gave birth to him, does he mean his family are not indigenous to Illubabor?
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If you know what he meant you can explain it to me but please don’t take it out of proportion, I didn’t mean to disrespect his mother.

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Let me tell you what I think is going on when Dima said he was accidentally born in Illuababor. He is ashamed of being Oromo deep to his bone. Total disgrace. But I do not blame him as he is a damaged by-product of a brutal dehumanizing colonial system.

He used a satellite TV station to reach audience in Oromiyaa. What he does not know is that anyone younger than 20 years old Oromiyaan cannot hear a word of the foreign language - Amaharic. So too late too little!

By the way do not mind some poor souls who complain about QC ABO for telling things as they are. QC ABO are the only hope of Oromiyaa!

So long!

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Actually the terms like Federation and Separation are used by and they are only appropriate for the minority nations at the geographical periphery like Tigrai. That is why Woyanes like to preach Federation as long as they are in power and they want to promote Separation of Tigrai, in case they lose power in Finfinne palace. The appropriate concepts for the nation of the majority at the center, like the Oromo and Oromia, are an Independence and an Integration. That means the Oromo people can benefit if we fight for our Freedom/Bilisummaa from Woyane tyrannts unconditionally and then choose between an 'Independent Core Oromia' and an 'Integrative Cush Oromia', based on an Oromo public verdict, after having an extensive and intensive debate and discussion on the benefit and cost of the two options of Sovereignity/Walabummaa of Oromia (based on the benefit and cost of an Independence and/or an Integration)!

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The oromo people struggled for centuries for thier Self Determination and Freedom Not for Regional Autonomy! secondly what is the main point Oromo People not to saperate From Original Emper States from Ethiopia? Econnomic structure? geographical and Land owned by Oromo people less than Ereatran Map? what is the Mak Dr. Dima Nageo on his interview October 09 Analysis on Oromo Independent?

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What we need is action..If any of the factions have the capacity to liberate Oromia, okay..we are all up for it. otherwise, we have to look for other means to end the century old Oromo repression. Just talking about liberation without any concrete way of achieving it doesn't make sense.


Dr.Dima said “born accidentally” so what.. we all say dumb and unwise things sometimes. If Dr. Dima can go back and change what he said, I believe he would.. Let’s not pick words from people’s mouth and try to label them...

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Dr. Dima's interview sucks. As someone who has always known the OLF as an organization without leaders, it am not surprised. No matter how we try to present it, this interview is about pandering to Ethiopians. In fact, his "chance" or "accidental" birth in Oromia fits well with the purpose of the interview. Dr. Dima is saying that he did not choose to be born there but that is explaining the obvious because no one chooses where they are born. I have listened to more interview I care to count in which the same question was. Invariably, the answer is always, "I was born in ...". This is the first time I heard "I was by chance born in ..." Dr. Dima sounded appologetic. The rest of the interview follows from that. I say "good luck" to Dr. Dima in his attempt at befriending Ethiopianists.

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- the Hindi style: the Hindi people liberated all nations and nationalities in their region and named the whole country as India, made the Hindi language as the working language of the Indian federation and of course divided the national area of Hindi into multiple federal regions. Why not we, the Oromo people, liberate the whole nations and nationalities in the Ethiopian empire, call the whole country Oromia and promote Afaan Oromo to the working language of the federation replacing Amharinyaa, with the five Odaa’s of Oromia being separate federal regions?

- the English style: the English people liberated themselves from the 700 years rule of the Roman empire, forged England as an autonomous region and united it with the neighbouring others to form the british United Kingdom, they also made English language the working language of the Kingdom. Can’t Oromia being autonomous, free and independent from the alien forces be united with the neighbour autonomous regions to forge the Cushitic Ethiopian union, similar to that of the United Kingdom and make Afaan Oromo the working language of the union replacing Amharinyaa?

- the Ruski style: Russians dismantled the Soviet union and established the Russian federation, which uses Russian national language, the federation which still does have an influence on its neighbours, because of its economic and military strength. Does this way of dismantling the Ethiopian empire and fostering Gadaa republic of Oromia to have a further influence over the liberated neighbouring countries more advantageous than the first two types of sovereignty?

As far as I am concerned, all the three ways are not harmful, but the decision must be made by the politically conscious Oromo polity and Oromo public per referendum, when the time comes.

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As a low profile member of OLF what I know about OLF is limited . this doesnt mean that dont know nothing.my contact with some high ranking OLF members, short time urban under ground activty and challenges with enemy security and dismantling their trap gave me courage for not loose hope in the brigt futurity of our people.when some leaders like "YOHNESES" Exposed themselves knowingly or unknowignly. THE TRUTH IS REVELAED THROUGH DICTATE OF TIME.How those genuine militants were extreminated at the beginning gives light the necessity more investigation on the link between the habeshan or foreign hands to parallize the organization for the the last 40 years on those remaining leaders. Dr DIMAS REVEALEATION HINTS TO BRING THOSE WHO WORKED AT POLIT BUREAU LEVEL TO CRIMINAL COURT( international court helpful). THEY ARE DIRECTLY RESPONSABLE FOR POLICY DECISION AND FOR ALL THE HUMAN LOSS THAT brought about millions death of hunger ,enemy excution ,refugee,problems that create around the world THE CRIMNIALITY MUST PROCESSED AT INTERNATIONAL COURT.The international community and oromo nationalst should work hand in hand to bring these the so called LEADERS since they are the shame oF our lebration( OBJECTIVE).

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A comment on Nov 5 above says:
"Russians dismantled the Soviet Union and established the Russian federation."
Russian federation did not replace the entire Republics of the Soviet Union.
The previous 15 republics consisted of Georgia, Ukraine, Belarus, and Azerbaijan to name a few. These were part of the soviet the union. Today they are independent countries. Today they are neighbors of Russian federation.
Based on this fact to answer your question "Does this way of dismantling the Ethiopian empire and fostering Gadaa republic of Oromia"
Dismantling the Ethiopian empire and building Independent state of Oromia can resemble Russian federation style, Independent Oromia will be built just on state of Ormia. The amaharas, the tigreans and others can be independent countries just like Georgia, Ukraine, Belarus, and Azerbaijan or be together as one country if they want. That is their choice.

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